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eaglefly 06-18-2015 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by RyanP (Post 1908807)
For someone so savvy in disorders you should really go get help for your own mental disorder first before posting any more.



Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.

If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. Or you may feel depressed and moody because you fall short of perfection.

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:

-Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

-Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

-Has a very strong sense of unreasonable expectations,
of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations


-Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

-Requires excessive admiration

-Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

Clearly, your condition is one of paranoia mixed with delusion.

Self-importance ?

The discussion of Envoy's situation has NOTHING to do with ME and EVERYTHING to do with Envoy and the misinformation of a core group of characters some of whom I'm sure are associated with CLR. ;)

I'M special ?

Where have I directed my comments at myself as the prime point of a post ? Additionally, where have my comments also been directed at, associated with or involve others who I believe are as "special as me" ?

Answer : Nowhere. I have rarely if ever discussed MYSELF in this or other threads and is rarely, if ever the point. Your obsession with me has confused you. :cool:

Unreasonable Expectations ?

That would be those like you not only expecting a guaranteed benefit without the foundation to support it, but attempt to sell YOUR unreasonable expectations to others. Actually, I consider THAT quite narcissistic.

"Arrogant" behavior ?

Yes, on that one I can see why you would think that. Considering the success of your sales pitches or in reality, the lack thereof, I realize how easily you could convert YOUR frustration into MY arrogance.

Admiration ?

Again, the subject is rarely about me and only turns that way when characters like YOU turn it that way. The subject from my POV is Envoy, the industry and accurate information to assist others in making INFORMED choices, not eaglefly.

Lacks empathy ?

Look at some recent posts here or on the other thread. You'll note some empathy even to those that don't give the impression they are worthy of it. Of course, it's hard to give empathy to those intent on weaving horse**** into Egyptian cotton.

What you have formulated in this assertion of my narcissism is essentially a strawman argument, but I realize a satisfying one.

Hey, if you want an example of someone with a TRUE NPD among other personality disorders, look no further than RJ pilot. Considering his penchant for being a pathological liar (Envoy EMB captain straight to GV captain), it mixes well with a narcissistic personality (advertising his $250,000 phantom salary) also with delusion (his conviction he knows my identity, which has always been wrong).

You should PM each other and build a friendship if it doesn't already exist. You have a lot in common.

eaglefly 06-18-2015 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1908825)
LOL'd. Guys he showed the exact same characteristics when he was at eagle flying the line.

How would you know ? The person you keep outing me as, ISN'T the person I am. If you want to lead some of these gullible puppies around with this treat, that's fine, but just so WE both know you're full of it, that's all that matters to me. ;)

eaglefly 06-18-2015 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1908838)
I was thinking the same thing. What makes it funny is everyone else recognizes the narcissism but him.

It sadly appears that for many of you characters, if you say something on this forum (or other forums ;)), it must be true at least in your own minds and hey, knock yourself out. Attacking me still wont change the fact that unless AAG commits to Envoy and Envoy hires A LOT of pilots to cover attrition, it's all fantasy. Of course, when one cannot dispute the MESSAGE, one frequently has nowhere else to go but attack the messenger.

Is it JUST accidental that when I comment to another with a general statement of the younger generations documented overexposure to psychological meds in past decades aimed at no individual(s), that the only ones who appear to take it personally and counter-attack me on a personal level are the usual suspects here ?

I don't think it's an accident. I think it's VERY revealing.

Cujo665 06-18-2015 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1908919)
Sure thing Thrustlever.....Whatever you say!

speaking of thrustlever....

some the posts in the forums matched the copied posts on facebook until a guy called him on it, then he unfriended him and deleted all his facebook posts.

eaglefly 06-18-2015 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1908969)
speaking of thrustlever....

some the posts in the forums matched the copied posts on facebook until a guy called him on it, then he unfriended him and deleted all his facebook posts.

Well, let's see. I'm trying to get this all straight now, so bear with me.

Since according to RJ pilot (and perhaps a few others, but it was him that made the initial claim IIRC), my name is "Joey" AKA "JJ", AKA "frosty tips" and most recently "thrustlever", that must mean either I am the one you speak of on Facebook or somone was poaching posts from elsewhere and posting them there, which isn't hard to do. Since Facebook isn't anonymous as far as I'm aware of it would seem to be easy to confirm, yes ?

So, if you could prove that those names are all associated with the same person, that would go a long way to substantiating all these so far baseless claims repetedly made by an obvious liar. If not, it would seem to indicate that advocating the concept of poaching and believing baseless claims has become an epidemic among many at Envoy and if so, perhaps the problem isn't with me, but within many at Envoy ?

Just a few thoughts anyway.........

sublime259 06-18-2015 12:38 PM

I'm telling you, do what I did. Put him on ignore. It makes reading this thread much more enjoyable when all the crap he says just doesn't show up.

FirstClass 06-18-2015 01:29 PM

I like his posts, in my opinion very rational arguments.

Good Luck!

sublime259 06-18-2015 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1909093)
I like his posts, in my opinion very rational arguments.

Good Luck!

Of course you would. I've never seen such biased posts that promote the downfall of another airline then when the two of you have something to say. Your posts are nothing more then outright lies with the intent of stirring the pot. You act like a know-it-all, but in reality have probably been in the industry for a very small amount of time with very little life experience to draw from.

Any argument that either of you ever makes ignore simple facts and numbers yet somehow that is "rational?" Please.

Unfortunately the mods refuse to do anything about the outright lies the two of you tell, which is really doing a disservice to the APC community. Go run back to your little circle jerk at PSA. Newsflash, nobody here likes you or anything you have to say. You're a troll and your personality is very indicative of the typical PSA pilot.

WakeWash 06-18-2015 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1909141)
You're a troll and your personality is very indicative of the typical PSA pilot.

Part one true, part two not. When you begin basing an entire group off one person then you become no better than him. No pilot here I know of condones his comments.


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