Originally Posted by RJ Pilot

What happened to the tide?


Good Luck!

Originally Posted by hijo

Just a little bit of knowledge to drop on you regarding the original question. If by some chance they have 175 slots available during your training then yes you can bid for it. It will go by seniority. For example, if there are 30 new hires in your class (bahahaha) and there are five 175 slots the rest are 145 then the most senior (DOB) in your class will get the choice till they are gone.

Now here is something to think about. If you get the 175 as a new hire know that you will be at the bottom forever and everyone that is on property prior to you will cut you in line once they are displaced over to the 175. This truely sucks.

Speaking from experience you don't want that. I was hired as DFW CRJ FO and it was senior equipment. EVERY fo that chose to come over would be above me on the seniority list. I was sitting standby at the airport for 8 months and logged about 150 hours. Then by the grace of God there was a displacement were I was sent to the ATR and guess what? I had some seniority! I could hold a line with weekends off and could bid decent vacation blocks. It was a completely different and much better job.

I really wish someone had told me not to step in that pile of sh!t back when I was a new hire. Make sure you do your research on the regional of your choice >>>as if you were going to be there the rest of you life<<<. That may not be there case but you never know when the music stops and you're left with your junk in your hand. Reaseach, reaseach, reaseach! Contracts pro/cons, QOL, bases and commuting, future of the airline. It's not all about upgrade time and travel benefits. That's how management stuckers you into coming to the dark side.

Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot

That's one perspective/possability. If envoy continues to shrink the 145 fleet at the same pace people leave then there will be no displacements off it. In that case all new hires will get the 175 as it is growing. That would leave someone hired this summer as the bottom guy on the 145 hating life. Similar thing happened on the crj back in 2010/11 with new guys getting crj lines while emj guys hired years before were on ready reserve listening to complaints about junior guys not getting the lines they wanted. Only after multiple small displacements was the sifting completed and seniority evened out. Likely same thing will happen again

Originally Posted by PilotJ3

We are getting 2 EMJs out of the desert to cover flying from DC.

We should be done shrinking by the end of this year. I believe the CRJs will stay longer than expected. AAG need us to fly those Aspen trips, which nobody else can do them.

I think once the 175s get into property envoy might be a place to be again.

Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot

The thread is about 175s and who gets on them. I'm saying that if your already at envoy and your not scheduled to get on one of the first deliveries then your stuck on the 145 bc they will never displace you off of it in our 2 bases. New hires will be getting the 175s as they are brought on property. 145s will not leave entirely and it'll be doing atr flying while the 175 does longer legs. Let's all look forward to the internal strife that will cause. That is all.......

Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot

The thread is about 175s and who gets on them. I'm saying that if your already at envoy and your not scheduled to get on one of the first deliveries then your stuck on the 145 bc they will never displace you off of it in our 2 bases. New hires will be getting the 175s as they are brought on property. 145s will not leave entirely and it'll be doing atr flying while the 175 does longer legs. Let's all look forward to the internal strife that will cause. That is all.......