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CBreezy 07-27-2015 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by mr25cents (Post 1938055)
The source of information is the CEO and the Senior VP for regional carriers. On the Questions and Answers portion another AAG employee complained about Mesa, once again. The CEO and senior VP said that they are aware of Mesas problems and outlined how they are trying to fix it, its not an Internet forum thing. It's the second time that Parker hears a complain about Mesa from an AAG employee, last time it was a 767 pilot who "asked" him about Mesa.

Again, do you really think that Parker cares? The flights are still full and people keep coming back. Mesa is good for the bottom line. If they really cared about perception over cost, regionals wouldnt have over half of all daily domestic departures.

PilotJ3 07-27-2015 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by ScottyDo (Post 1938006)
Yea if you guys want to use real information from accurate sources then here is the scoop. For the month of June Envoy had a CF of 94.98%, Mesa had 94.67 and TSA had a 94.25% completion factor. As far as "on time percentage" Envoy was on time 73.90%, Mesa 69.68%, and TSA was on time 60.29%.

So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better.

So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again?

Airline Performance Reports

Yeah, but when Envoy had 10,940 more flights that MESA (which is about 75% of the total ammount of Flying mesa do).

So percentage wise they are close, but in numbers is different.

TSA only had about 7,000 sched flights.

CBreezy 07-27-2015 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1938065)
Yeah, but when Envoy had 10,940 more flights that MESA (which is about 75% of the total ammount of Flying mesa do).

So percentage wise they are close, but in numbers is different.

TSA only had about 7,000 sched flights.

Which means a single canceled flight has more of an impact on performance at TSA and Mesa than Envoy

mr25cents 07-27-2015 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1938061)
Again, do you really think that Parker cares? The flights are still full and people keep coming back. Mesa is good for the bottom line. If they really cared about perception over cost, regionals wouldnt have over half of all daily domestic departures.

You don't spend money and resources on something you don't care about.

TalkTurkey 07-27-2015 05:22 AM

So far today Envoy isn't doing too bad with only 11 delays as of now.

jdflyer1999 07-27-2015 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by BE24pilot (Post 1937952)
Do you have a minuet marker form the recording. I missed this part when I listened the first time.

Just select regional performance from menu.

CBreezy 07-27-2015 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by mr25cents (Post 1938068)
You don't spend money and resources on something you don't care about.

And you're the CEO of which company?

Maybe CEO pilot cares but shareholders don't. They care about return. What gets you a bigger return? Cheap outsourced labor.

PilotCrusader 07-27-2015 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1938079)
And you're the CEO of which company?

Maybe CEO pilot cares but shareholders don't. They care about return. What gets you a bigger return? Cheap outsourced labor.

Which is exactly what you are.

CBreezy 07-27-2015 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1938101)
Which is exactly what you are.

So are you? Anyone working at a regional is cheap outsourced labor. Some are just younger than others. Especially after that poo you just agreed to.

mr25cents 07-27-2015 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1938079)
And you're the CEO of which company?

Maybe CEO pilot cares but shareholders don't. They care about return. What gets you a bigger return? Cheap outsourced labor.

Hehe, is like talking to my ex-gf, who was never and never will be, wrong. It's ok son, you'll be fine.


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