Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2009392)

I think you're becoming a bit hysterical. Try to temper your emotion a bit and you'll feel better. The fact is it failed last Summer. It was a BIG deal on EL too. What remedy was subsequently made doesn't change that fact.

Supposedly AA plans 750 new-hires next year and from what I hear everyone be it recall or another carriers flow is supposedly a new-hire, so you'd think that means 375 Envoy flows. But already, the projection has been lowered to "200-300", so it looks as though they already are lowering your expectations. Just weeks ago, all I heard was the trumpets blowing about 30/month starting in January or 360 next year, but that looks doubtful. If say 250 go next year, at that rate it will take till close to the end of 2017 just to get through the 824.

Will 30 go in January ?

I have my doubts. Although I'll take no pleasure in seeing hopeful Envoy pilots delayed in going to AA by a slower flow then hoped for, if it twists you into a pretzel as I'm sure it will, it will at least provide some mirth to an otherwise unfortunate situation. If something truly unforseen occurs stopping the flow like too many deferees, I expect you to collapse into a complete and total crack-up.

I think fantasy just may be your best friend in the future........use it well, my son. :D

Originally Posted by fisherman (Post 2009402)

is there a way to automatically ignore posts from a certain user?

Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2009409)

Some deferees counts as NewHires, fact #1, so they have to apply flows for each one of them.

Fact 2...824 can be metered to 30 a month or 50% whichever is lower, at the end of the year it have to be equal to 50% regardless. The protections are depending on who you talk to. AA can say "I'm protecting 200, 300, 800, 10000 hires next year" and actually hire 1, 10, 100, 20.

Nothing in this industry is for sure. So how about if we stop talking hypothetically?

If AA hires 700 next year then, by the end of 2016 they had to flow 350. That's as simple as it is, it can be 30 a mont, it can be 20, it can be 1...its up to how many AA gets into class.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2009419)

I'd love to stop talking hypotheticals, but the projections for flows next year along with Flaming Sky's guarantee's are just that. Nothing in this industry is for sure and that's for sure.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2009296)

By your own admission kid, in July 2015 the flow FAILED under Parker. It doesn't matter what was done to correct that later. But that was NOT my point, only your misguided ramblings to try and convince yourself and others your world of fantasy based on assumptions, projections and hypotheticals is unalterable.

It has NOTHING to do with me, that is simply also a byproduct of your obviously delusion-based existence. Again, claiming that it's certain the flow will not change or stop based on what happened yesterday, last month or a year ago is silly. I strongly doubt anyone here takes your desperate veiled pleading and begging, nor your overt selling here seriously either.

But by all means...............carry on ! If anything, it's entertaining. Demented and sad, but entertaining. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2009101)

No such guarantee exists.

All that exists in this respect are present projections that imply it is possible for such a pilot to theoretically achieve that result in that time frame, but that is NOT the same as a guarantee. If such a thing existed, it would be in iron-clad contractual language.

Considering one must accept that there is motive for some to insinuate such a claim, it makes it even more obvious that NO pilot should assume such a thing.

Originally Posted by FlameNSky (Post 2009127)

It is as much as a guarantee that United or Delta might call that person for an interview and they might be among the 85% interviewees who are offered a job. There are over 600 pilots that have flowed over to AA in the last 4 years that say its a pretty good chance.

So far, your argument carries about as much weight as, "well, assuming a meteorite doesn't hit the earth and destroy all humanity before that time comes."

But since you like to sow such distrust for the flow, name me one time that FT hasn't worked as advertised since Parker took over?


(They should have flowed over 6 guys in July 2015 but the next month they flowed 18 at 100% of the class)

Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX (Post 2009687)

Isn't this clown at AA and didn't he FLOW???