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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 2156983)
That's pretty twisted, if you ask me.
But once again, yes, everything you perceive as a negative is unsubstantiated rumor, idle speculation or downright wrong, etc. It's OK, I expect nothing different from you. At least you're predictable. ;) Carry on my wayward son. How about I twist it some more. I post both positive and negative here. The only time it gets twisted is when you disagree. Funny, that. |
Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2156976)
Yeah, keep hearing that from some captains on training but I don't think thats happening. Im willing to commute in order to fly the E175.
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
(Post 2156996)
How about I twist it some more. I post both positive and negative here. The only time it gets twisted is when you disagree.
Funny, that. But hey, considering the realities there as this latest example all but demonstrates, SOMEONE here has to be your fall guy and resident piñata. Before you go off with one of your "poor little victim" rants regarding me, understand that would only be proving my point. But, if you must, you must...... |
Sure, I'm much more direct in my dislike of your methods. It's no secret. I don't beat around the bush using words like buddy, cheerleader, usual suspects and your usual repertoire of question dodging .
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 2157011)
To you, I'm sure it is. I'm confident if we analyzed our history here, the offensive thrown rock count would favor you by 5-1 over me. I tend post issues about Envoy and you tend to post responses about ME.
But hey, considering the realities there as this latest example all but demonstrates, SOMEONE here has to be your fall guy and resident piñata. Before you go off with one of your "poor little victim" rants regarding me, understand that would only be proving my point. But, if you must, you must...... Source: I actually work here. |
Originally Posted by RyanP
(Post 2157017)
There is absolutely nothing factual about any E175 displacements as of now. If they wanted to displace to ORD it would be on the vacancy bid from a few days ago. But there is no displacements. The ORD 175 FO positions are all going to new hires. They are not having issues getting the 175 classes filled. They also just offered the last class $5,000 extra for anyone wanting to take the CRJ. Total of 30K in bonus money first year.
Source: I actually work here. Still not convinced anything has materially changed for Envoy. Even though you work there, we'll have to consider your assertions unsubstantiated just like the others who also claim to work there, but say things in opposition. After all, if the MikeFox can go by that philosophy, everyone else here should be able to as well. Thanks for your rumors......we will add them to the mix. |
Originally Posted by highflyer1980
(Post 2156988)
Update. Upper management went over said supervisors authority and granted him travel. However, they are interpreting the company rules to their own benefit. Even though he did call fatigue with legitimate reasons, and then seek authorization to travel as he should, supervisor denied him travel and said he was still on duty even though released for rest. Then recommended he should go to another airline to get home.
Wow. Just wow. From the way I understand it, if you fly on another airline while you are out for any reason without approval, is grounds for your travel authorization to be revoked and could as well lead to termination. Yup Envoy sounds like a swell place. Bet the CPO would go up to bat when a pilot gets fired for that crap. Just hope no bus is near bye if your that guy. |
Originally Posted by None
(Post 2157077)
Said he should use another air carrier huh? Interesting. Not the first time I have heard the ORD CPO advising pilots of doing things they could get fired for. You guys need to start recording everything.
From the way I understand it, if you fly on another airline while you are out for any reason without approval, is grounds for your travel authorization to be revoked and could as well lead to termination. Yup Envoy sounds like a swell place. Bet the CPO would go up to bat when a pilot gets fired for that crap. Just hope no bus is near bye if your that guy. |
Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
(Post 2157016)
Sure, I'm much more direct in my dislike of your methods. It's no secret. I don't beat around the bush using words like buddy, cheerleader, usual suspects and your usual repertoire of question dodging .
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 2157091)
I think you're dislike of my "methods" (whatever that means) is that they go against your self-serving interests and deep down, you believe they may be more effective then others. The reason you see me as "dodging questions" is you target me instead of the subject you seek to deflect, which simply validates my assertions you are obsessed with me instead of neutrally dealing with the issues that exist.
You should go into corporate PR. You excel at attempting to make BS true. http://rs1028.pbsrc.com/albums/y341/...h=480&fit=clip Trust in me...right? Keep trying. |
Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
(Post 2157098)
You should go into corporate PR. You excel at attempting to make BS true.
http://rs1028.pbsrc.com/albums/y341/...h=480&fit=clip Trust in me...right? Keep trying. Your eyes are looking very weird and I'm concerned about you. The last time I saw someone looking like that, it was a Life magazine cover with Charles Manson on it. |
Originally Posted by RyanP
(Post 2157017)
They also just offered the last class $5,000 extra for anyone wanting to take the CRJ. Total of 30K in bonus money first year.
Source: I actually work here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
How do you figure 30k in bonus? I thought it was 15k in sign on bonus (plus the now 5k CRJ, totaling to 20k)
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Originally Posted by Inclined plane
(Post 2157126)
How do you figure 30k in bonus? I thought it was 15k in sign on bonus (plus the now 5k CRJ, totaling to 20k)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 15K bonus + 10K yearly retention + 5K CRJ = 30K. 55K+ 1st year. Those new hires can make more than topped out FO's their 1st year. |
Originally Posted by RyanP
(Post 2157127)
They got the 20K retention bonus extended to them also. 10K per year for 2 years. (They might miss out on 1 of the payments, since they missed the first quarterly payment), I don't know.
15K bonus + 10K yearly retention + 5K CRJ = 30K. 55K+ 1st year. Those new hires can make more than topped out FO's their 1st year. Before eaglefly and his friends start posting the same. |
I'm hearing there will be displacements out of the 175 to go along with this vacancy. Revised displacement bid out soon.
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Originally Posted by ag386
(Post 2157132)
I'm hearing there will be displacements out of the 175 to go along with this vacancy. Revised displacement bid out soon.
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Originally Posted by ag386
(Post 2157132)
I'm hearing there will be displacements out of the 175 to go along with this vacancy. Revised displacement bid out soon.
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Originally Posted by ag386
(Post 2157132)
I'm hearing there will be displacements out of the 175 to go along with this vacancy. Revised displacement bid out soon.
That one was dropped by a guy in recruitment, btw, who also says they have heard nothing about the displacement rumor in the offices. We should all know better by now, 99/100 rumors are bull, but I guess it's like that D&D line: "So you're saying there's a chance???!" |
ag386 creams in his panties anytime the rumor mill stirs up any sort of bad news at envoy. I wonder if I would be as vindictive at my former employer if I got fired too...nahhhh I would move on with my life!
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
(Post 2157157)
You couldn't even copy and paste the merger rumor from the other forum? That one is way better. Air Whisky or PDT, take your pick.
That one was dropped by a guy in recruitment, btw, who also says they have heard nothing about the displacement rumor in the offices. We should all know better by now, 99/100 rumors are bull, but I guess it's like that D&D line: "So you're saying there's a chance???!" |
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 2157143)
Hearing from eaglefly...there were no Displacement Bids as part of the bid.
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
(Post 2157157)
You couldn't even copy and paste the merger rumor from the other forum? That one is way better. Air Whisky or PDT, take your pick.
That one was dropped by a guy in recruitment, btw, who also says they have heard nothing about the displacement rumor in the offices. We should all know better by now, 99/100 rumors are bull, but I guess it's like that D&D line: "So you're saying there's a chance???!" Don't rain on their parade. Just because it's not true doesn't mean it isn't real! |
Say hello to the newest E175 pilot. Couldn't be any easier!
PS If you come from a cfi background flying G1000 you shouldn't have no problems transitioning to the Ejet. Heard of some older envoy pilots coming from the E145 struggling. |
Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2160665)
Say hello to the newest E175 pilot. Couldn't be any easier!
PS If you come from a cfi background flying G1000 you shouldn't have no problems transitioning to the Ejet. Heard of some older envoy pilots coming from the E145 struggling. Let us know when you become a line holder. Congrats on the easy peasy training. It's so easy even a caveman can do it!!! |
Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2160665)
Say hello to the newest E175 pilot. Couldn't be any easier!
PS If you come from a cfi background flying G1000 you shouldn't have no problems transitioning to the Ejet. Heard of some older envoy pilots coming from the E145 struggling. |
Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2160665)
Say hello to the newest E175 pilot. Couldn't be any easier!
PS If you come from a cfi background flying G1000 you shouldn't have no problems transitioning to the Ejet. Heard of some older envoy pilots coming from the E145 struggling. |
Originally Posted by DilsonWic
(Post 2160674)
Let us know when you become a line holder. Congrats on the easy peasy training. It's so easy even a caveman can do it!!!
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Looks like the 15k bonus worked , looks like 10 people in class
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2160690)
That will be in Sept. I will miss the bid for Aug which is going to suck on reserve.
But once you're a line holder our red redder TTOT system works great. Oh, and JE in CS is awesome! |
Originally Posted by Mistek89
(Post 2160699)
Looks like the 15k bonus worked , looks like 10 people in class
Envoy is melting. |
Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2160665)
Say hello to the newest E175 pilot. Couldn't be any easier!
PS If you come from a cfi background flying G1000 you shouldn't have no problems transitioning to the Ejet. Heard of some older envoy pilots coming from the E145 struggling. |
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 2160704)
Only 25-30 short considering the soon to be increased (supposedly) flow and outside attrition. Considering the increasing deficit that's been building all year, they are way short and need to be making up for past months shortfalls.
Envoy is melting. |
Doesn't increasing a sign on bonus imply that an airline is struggling to hire pilots?
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
(Post 2160743)
If that was true they wouldn't be getting e175s, and offering a sign on bonus of 15k. They are growing
Delusion or denial, I haven't figured out where you're at yet. :cool: |
Originally Posted by mketch11
(Post 2160760)
Doesn't increasing a sign on bonus imply that an airline is struggling to hire pilots?
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
(Post 2160743)
If that was true they wouldn't be getting e175s, and offering a sign on bonus of 15k. They are growing
Also, heard today that the August schedules on the 175 are the usual Envoy garbage lines. No complete weekends off. 72 hours max. Non commutable. Lost days in podunk cities. All 4 day trips. 12-13 hour credit 4 day trips. |
If they paid more, people would come...
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
(Post 2160784)
If they paid more, people would come...
even if you would come, or applied, still you would have to call them up on their pilot recruiter to let them know that you already applied, they will tell you that someone will call you.. in my case former 121, its been 2 weeks and nada.. at the same time applied to RAH, and they call me the next day. guess where I am going?? .. I wanted to work for ENVOY, not to mention the BONUS.. CASH! |
I still can't believe you guys are thinking of coming here. Just like a G1000 Cessna, flying a shiny airplane will get old. It will get old even faster when you realize how owned you are.
The schedules her are worse than any other airline. I'm sure company half wit will come on and tell about how great their line is, but they aren't. I've been here over 20 years and have a 14 hour 4 day trip. Get real! Here is what another person EL said, and they hit it right on the head: 175 lines are total garbage. 100% unproductive 4 day trips. No 3 day trips, no 2 day trips, no day trips, no other options besides reserve. 11 day off lines worth 72 hours. 90% of lines have lost days where you are forced to be at work and gone from home all day for $1.85 an hour. The teenager cooking your hamburger at Burger King makes 4x more than you. Reserve is a better option. Pretty soon lines at this company will have to be junior assigned because nobody wants these 12-13hr 4 day trips. Those would be 2 day trips at any respectable company with competent people running the place. *** is with all the lost days? Why schedule wasteful trash like this then zero out reserves and have to JM? Its no wonder nobody will come work here at this dump. We have the worst schdules of any airline in the country. BY FAR. |
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