Envoy ALPA Upgrade/Flow info
01-01-2016, 07:44 PM
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I don't think a new hire that has 60k+ in loans will fall for the new shiny ejets or a satellite base in MIA. Management must raise pay or offer retention bonuses to keep pilots around. Keep in mind, Envoy will lose 90 pilots over the next 3 months to mainline.
01-02-2016, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
They've been doing it for years without blinking an eye.
Only guys not new to the industry wants more money. Take in consideration that the average Commercial/CFI new to the industry is Single and 25/30k is the most they ever done. Usually they are happy and don't care as far as they are flying a LargeRJ (if is a carrier with 50 seater and 76 seater) or a jet (if is a carrier with props and jets, ex: PDT & Commutair).
01-02-2016, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
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Only guys not new to the industry wants more money. Take in consideration that the average Commercial/CFI new to the industry is Single and 25/30k is the most they ever done. Usually they are happy and don't care as far as they are flying a LargeRJ (if is a carrier with 50 seater and 76 seater) or a jet (if is a carrier with props and jets, ex: PDT & Commutair).
Only guys not new to the industry wants more money. Take in consideration that the average Commercial/CFI new to the industry is Single and 25/30k is the most they ever done. Usually they are happy and don't care as far as they are flying a LargeRJ (if is a carrier with 50 seater and 76 seater) or a jet (if is a carrier with props and jets, ex: PDT & Commutair).
01-02-2016, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 977flyer
Agreed but I think we can all agree that the pool of that kind of pilot is drying up fast.
When someone selects a regional they usually look at Bases, Contract, Upgrade Time and lastly now today a Flow Thru. Where is Envoy lacking compared to other Regionals operating the 175's? Are they not getting any pilots in class already? If that's the case then AAG will up the ante don't worry.
American will make sure Envoy succeeds. Believe me there will be a more the a few contract carriers close there doors before Envoy.
01-02-2016, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 977flyer
Agreed but I think we can all agree that the pool of that kind of pilot is drying up fast.
That should be enough to keep people coming thru the doors. Also when you advertise to the CFI that "Hey you just got your interview with AA, just wait for your number. Also you can apply from the street to every airline including AA.", it is a good deal.
Of course, nobody knows if it's going to work until the next couple of years.
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