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myoface 03-02-2016 07:07 AM

I have 10000 hours of 121 time. how long do i have to be there to collect my $100000 check?

ag386 03-02-2016 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2080223)
Here we go...

PEOPLE!! Stop letting eaglefly hijack every thread.

How are you feeling today? Are you hung over after partying the night away with FlameNSky and RyanP? I'm sure you guys had toast after toast celebrating this victory to trump all and validate your claims that "Truly, Envoy Is THE Greatest."

In the end what's been offered here is good, yes. But look at it. It's 20k to current FO's over two years so they hopefully won't bail.

I'm with PilotCrusader. Jetblue or another LCC offers even an Envoy Captain a much better overall pay structure in addition to being treated like a human being.

adspilot 03-02-2016 07:31 AM

This bonus is only designed to two things.

1. Keep more envoy FOs from leaving.

2. Poach other 121 pilots. The timing of this seems to target Republic pilots.

This fails to attract new pilots. I don't see this bonus having the desired result management is looking for. Older FOs will still continue to seek to move JB Spirit Virgin or Majors if they are lucky. Newer FOs may stay if they see they will get off reserve quicker.

The main complaints we have are still here and need to be addressed.

I'm definitely excited about getting the bonuses but there is still progress to be made.

Darant 03-02-2016 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by adspilot (Post 2080327)
This bonus is only designed to two things.

1. Keep more envoy FOs from leaving.

2. Poach other 121 pilots. The timing of this seems to target Republic pilots.

This fails to attract new pilots. I don't see this bonus having the desired result management is looking for. Older FOs will still continue to seek to move JB Spirit Virgin or Majors if they are lucky. Newer FOs may stay if they see they will get off reserve quicker.

The main complaints we have are still here and need to be addressed.

I'm definitely excited about getting the bonuses but there is still progress to be made.

Are they offering referral bonuses?

boiler07 03-02-2016 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Darant (Post 2080382)
Are they offering referral bonuses?

Yes they are.

FirstClass 03-02-2016 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2080230)
Discussion OF THE TOPIC is "hijack" ?

Here we go, someone with only personal interest lobbies AGAINST critical discussion of the thread subject to maximize their personal interest. :rolleyes:

I'd argue it is you that has hijacked this ENTIRE FORUM !

You keep right on being awesome.

adspilot 03-02-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2080242)
I'd love to continue a coherent discussion with you on the topic, but it seems we have run dry as your only reply now is............well, this. :cool:

I'm sure some others will have something of interest to say (even if they disagree with me), so I'll check back later. Meanwhile...........carry on with whatever.

"I'll check back later." Translate "I'll continue to watch the screen hoping someone mentions me and how awesome I am."

http://https://s-media-cache-ak0.pin...f9a5291d07.jpg

adspilot 03-02-2016 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Darant (Post 2080382)
Are they offering referral bonuses?

1k .....filler

AdiosMikeFox 03-02-2016 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by adspilot (Post 2080464)

"I'll check back later." Translate "I'll continue to watch the screen hoping someone mentions me and how awesome I am."

http://https://s-media-cache-ak0.pin...f9a5291d07.jpg


You don't even have to mention his name. He'll show up anyway. Watch this...

Waitingformins 03-02-2016 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2080228)
I'm on the PILOT side. But, astute pilots (now being a sought after commodity in short supply) now more then ever have to consider the realities of a specific situation that affects their future and hard questions need to be considered and explored even if unpleasant. It still sounds as though you are on-board with ANYTHING that maximizes YOUR flow to AA, even if it's bad for others or the industry.

Are you arguing that present Envoy F/O's or other pilots SHOULDN'T consider these difficult questions (regardless of how they themselves factor them in and act upon them) and just become (or remain) mindless robots batted around by others like a cat does a stuffed toy ?

I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm simply A. assessing the situation how I see it and B. suggesting that potentially affected pilots think outside the box TO DETERMINE IF SOMETHING REALLY IS WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM instead of being unthinking marionettes for the interests of others.

This seems to upset you greatly, but perhaps that's because your focus is solely upon yourself ?

Aww, come on man let them have their money, do you know how much coke and hookers 20k will buy.


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