Everyone is so busy fighting over who screwed who first they fail to realize that for the first time in a long time companies are fighting over pilots, not vice a versa. Take advantage of it and maximize it.

Some of us are trying to.

Well some of us tried to go to envoy and your own recruiters during the interview told us we were idiots if we came there. Sorry I didn't choose an airline based on your feeling.


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Do you like to be lied to or prefer honesty? If one of our recruiters told you that they were being honest. Don't fault someone for being honest. YOU still made the decision. In the end it is ourselves who decide where and for whom we work. If you don't like where you are at move on and don't blame others.

BOOM! Got him there RyanP.

You, FlameNSky and Skyvector in the middle of the street at high noon facing down Parker & Co. Gives me chills. Envoy's the best! Never caved. We don't want to hear no self righteous BS from PSA!

Current PSA isn't the same pilots as the ones who voted in that TA. But yoi already know that. We are just trying to improve our airline the same way you are trying to improve yours.

Voting yes on a concessionary contract vs applying to work under said concessionary contract is the same thing. Heck it's even worse, at least you could argue the PSA pilots that voted yes were fearing for their jobs. You just saw a company that undercut multiple carriers and subsequently was able to grow explosively and took advantage of it. Don't act like some holier than thou crusader fighting for the good of the industry.

Are you on glue?

What is worse? Voting it in or actively choosing to work knowing the facts after the fact? This is like the Mesa knuckleheads crying about the classes still being full when they agreed to work for the same deal.

ELOHEL.

You are not better, so please stop pointing your dirty finger.

Get off your high horse. I came to PSA because it was the only airline that offered a painless commute and allowed me to hold a base I could get to easily. And back then it wasn't that bad. It was just middle of the road. Middle of the road contract, middle of the road pay, etc... Now we are one of the worst and all it's taken is a year. Everyone gets mad at management, but the wholly owneds aren't like regular regionals. Our management doesn't call any shots. AAG calls the shots. Our management (and yours) is just middle management.