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-   -   Retention Bonuses at Envoy (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/93685-retention-bonuses-envoy.html)

FourPutt 03-01-2016 02:53 PM
Why is it an LOU and not an LOA that should be voted on by the entire pilot group?

RyanP 03-01-2016 02:53 PM
I just hope this thread can stay on track about bonuses for new hires and FO retention so it's actually useful to people, and not get derailed for 472 pages arguing with 2 usernames that don't even work here.

Aviatrx 03-01-2016 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 2079748)
All 3 of the wholly owned were offered the same thing. This was more than a week in the making. PDT and PSA told the company to pound sand unless everyone gets the bonus.

Envoy was the only sellout.

Stay classy, Envoy.
I call BS! As a captain I would have liked to see a retention but it would be rediculous to not allow the retention/signing bonus for FO's. It is in every bodies best interest and I am pretty sure this is an attempt to hook some Air Shuttle pilots

mr25cents 03-01-2016 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by nh2ri15 (Post 2079756)
Yes I'm just saying that the guaranteed interview as well as the flow through are both just back up plans and unless the current situation changes, most people hired today shouldn't have to make use of either.


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I get you. Yeah, hopefully all of us that want to move on to better things will be able to.

Skyvector 03-01-2016 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Aviatrx (Post 2079768)
I call BS! As a captain I would have liked to see a retention but it would be rediculous to not allow the retention/signing bonus for FO's. It is in every bodies best interest and I am pretty sure this is an attempt to hook some Air Shuttle pilots
It is BS...don't worry. Just the usual attempt to derail an Envoy thread with made up, false information. PSA & PDT haven't heard a peep about this.

HighFlight 03-01-2016 02:58 PM
No matter what, congrats for the guys and gals that push the metal around the skies for Envoy!! It is a step in the right direction, and I hope it continues both there and at other contract airlines who will find they need to follow suit in order to keep students in class. Times, they are a-changin'!!

ag386 03-01-2016 03:09 PM
Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2079771)
It is BS...don't worry. Just the usual attempt to derail an Envoy thread with made up, false information. PSA & PDT haven't heard a peep about this.
Yes, a step in the right direction. Out of necessity it seems. AAG/Envoy sure ain't gonna part with any dollars to pilots that they don't have to.

But hey, I DON"T EVEN WORK HERE!

chrisreedrules 03-01-2016 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2079771)
It is BS...don't worry. Just the usual attempt to derail an Envoy thread with made up, false information. PSA & PDT haven't heard a peep about this.
To be fair, I did hear from a credible source just a few days ago that PSA management approached the union about offering retention bonuses to FOs but not CAs and our union told them to pound sand. The timing of this announcement is uncanny. So there may actually be some truth to the rumor.

PDTpilotXX 03-01-2016 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2079801)
To be fair, I did hear from a credible source just a few days ago that PSA management approached the union about offering retention bonuses to FOs but not CAs and our union told them to pound sand. The timing of this announcement is uncanny. So there may actually be some truth to the rumor.
All 3 airlines were given the same deal. It's how this works from here on out. They told the pilots they wanted similar contracts at all 3. Similar flows. Similar everything. It stands to reason they offered all three the money for the Jr guys. Just pressure your MEC reps to answer you. I bet I know what they'll say

ccjaxpilot 03-01-2016 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX (Post 2079806)
All 3 airlines were given the same deal. It's how this works from here on out. They told the pilots they wanted similar contracts at all 3. Similar flows. Similar everything. It stands to reason they offered all three the money for the Jr guys. Just pressure your MEC reps to answer you. I bet I know what they'll say
Sound to me that all 3 MECs should be talking.

But collectively saying "no" didn't go so well a few years ago...


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