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chrisreedrules 03-01-2016 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by ccjaxpilot (Post 2079835)
Sound to me that all 3 MECs should be talking.

In a perfect world... But easier said than done.

PilotJ3 03-01-2016 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by ccjaxpilot (Post 2079835)
Sound to me that all 3 MECs should be talking.

The time for that was 3 years ago. PSA started and PDT followed.

Now that they are the same boat we where in 2013-2014. PSA and PDT MEC said everyone is on their own. I'm pretty sure my envoy colleagues probably feel the same way.

272922 03-01-2016 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2079842)
The time for that was 3 years ago. PSA started and PDT followed.

Now that they are the same boat we where in 2013-2014. PSA and PDT MEC said everyone is on their own. I'm pretty sure my envoy colleagues probably feel the same way.

We can rehash history all you want, but PSA and PDT weren't in a position to say no 2 years ago.

Now with PSA twice its original size with far, far fewer available pilots there's plenty of leverage for them to use.

It's not all about you, you know.

cf105 03-01-2016 04:07 PM

great move in the right direction even if bonuses are taxed much higher then normal pay. Too bad the first 3 years FO pay rate is still so crappy.


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AdiosMikeFox 03-01-2016 04:09 PM

We didn't throw anybody under the bus to get this. Rehash whatever you like, but that was the end result of 3 years ago.

272922 03-01-2016 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by cf105 (Post 2079855)
great move in the right direction even if bonuses are taxed much higher then normal pay. Too bad the first 3 years FO pay rate is still so crappy.


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This again? They are WITHHELD at a higher rate. Very big difference.

Da Magic 03-01-2016 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by 272922 (Post 2079845)
We can rehash history all you want, but PSA and PDT weren't in a position to say no 2 years ago.

Now with PSA twice its original size with far, far fewer available pilots there's plenty of leverage for them to use.

It's not all about you, you know.

More ENTITLED generation talk from PSA and PDT. I'm glad those Captains there aren't getting a dime of retention(as of now). Most likely they were the YES voters.

ccjaxpilot 03-01-2016 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by cf105 (Post 2079855)
great move in the right direction even if bonuses are taxed much higher then normal pay. Too bad the first 3 years FO pay rate is still so crappy.


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Bonuses are taxed the same as any other earned income.

The withholding may be more, but you will get that back when you file your taxes for the year. If you want less withheld, put allowances on the W4 higher throughout the whole year.

nh2ri15 03-01-2016 04:14 PM

How easily can the company end bonuses if they want to?


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bigtime209 03-01-2016 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 2079748)
All 3 of the wholly owned were offered the same thing. This was more than a week in the making. PDT and PSA told the company to pound sand unless everyone gets the bonus.

Envoy was the only sellout.

Stay classy, Envoy.

You're joking right? You're trying to act like PSA and Envoy have each other's backs and that we're a team? Envoy was the only sellout? Remember when Envoy stood up against management along with many other carriers and PSA got on their knees and sold out? So now that you've stabbed everyone in the back and took concessions now you want to act like PSA is are high and mighty and honorable. Give me a break. Even if what you say is true, there is no unity between the PSA and Envoy MECs. There could have been a great alliance between the two but PSA were the ones to sell out. Remember. It's every man for himself now. PSA blew it.


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