Envoy newhires to E-175
03-15-2016 | 01:11 PM
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I'm surprised at the pro-ENY talk here. Why don't we just wait and see if they make good on their promises? This isn't last year where they actually pulled it off, this year they have a lot of promises to keep and are off to a lousy start.
03-15-2016 | 03:02 PM
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If only there were pilots out there to feed such a plan. It will require well over 400 pilots/year and not just this or next year, but 6 or more for poor F/O Bucket to beam glowingly in AA new-hire Indoc.
The present feeble new-hire numbers won't feed that engine and thus Envoy breaks down and coasts to the shoulder awaiting a tow truck, unless Envoy's drivers can successfully siphon someone else's gas (poaching) or a merger/acquisition occurs.
The present feeble new-hire numbers won't feed that engine and thus Envoy breaks down and coasts to the shoulder awaiting a tow truck, unless Envoy's drivers can successfully siphon someone else's gas (poaching) or a merger/acquisition occurs.
03-15-2016 | 04:35 PM
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This is absolutely a YX 175. Pretty funny it being used here.
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03-15-2016 | 05:33 PM
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If only there were pilots out there to feed such a plan. It will require well over 400 pilots/year and not just this or next year, but 6 or more for poor F/O Bucket to beam glowingly in AA new-hire Indoc.
The present feeble new-hire numbers won't feed that engine and thus Envoy breaks down and coasts to the shoulder awaiting a tow truck, unless Envoy's drivers can successfully siphon someone else's gas (poaching) or a merger/acquisition occurs.
The present feeble new-hire numbers won't feed that engine and thus Envoy breaks down and coasts to the shoulder awaiting a tow truck, unless Envoy's drivers can successfully siphon someone else's gas (poaching) or a merger/acquisition occurs.
03-15-2016 | 05:40 PM
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I don't see that happening, but you never know.
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03-15-2016 | 05:59 PM
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Of course I do.
It has come up in discussion before. Smaller ENY means that those senior pilots that do not wish to flow are clogging up an even greater percentage of valuable left seats available to upgrades and flow. It is a serious issue that I have not seen directly addressed - unless you count making this place a pain in the *** to work for and commute to in order to drive them out. It's worked on several senior pilots I know. "**** that, I quit", they said. And they did. But not enough to solve that elephant in the room if ENY continues to shrink.
Conveniently our projected shrinkage has slowed dramatically, so that will be very helpful in kicking the can down the road. We'll just have to see what happens. I have no idea what the average age of the "Declined" crowd is, or how far they are from retirement. That would also have to be factored in to the ever-fluctuating fleet plan and flow rates.
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It has come up in discussion before. Smaller ENY means that those senior pilots that do not wish to flow are clogging up an even greater percentage of valuable left seats available to upgrades and flow. It is a serious issue that I have not seen directly addressed - unless you count making this place a pain in the *** to work for and commute to in order to drive them out. It's worked on several senior pilots I know. "**** that, I quit", they said. And they did. But not enough to solve that elephant in the room if ENY continues to shrink.
Conveniently our projected shrinkage has slowed dramatically, so that will be very helpful in kicking the can down the road. We'll just have to see what happens. I have no idea what the average age of the "Declined" crowd is, or how far they are from retirement. That would also have to be factored in to the ever-fluctuating fleet plan and flow rates.
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