envoy now giving 15k signing bonus to 135 pil

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04-06-2016 | 05:27 AM

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highflyer1980

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The desperation in management is starting to become fully saturated. It's pretty obvious now.

04-06-2016 | 06:01 AM

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Does anyone know if the bonus is applied to all 135 hrs or to multi pic. I have 1500 hrs of 135 time but in c206 and C414

04-06-2016 | 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwiflyer

Does anyone know if the bonus is applied to all 135 hrs or to multi pic. I have 1500 hrs of 135 time but in c206 and C414

I would contact HR honestly and ask amd explain your situation and see what they say. Thise folks are the ones that make those decisions on bonuses

04-06-2016 | 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock

If it's not before the new hire comes on property alpa should be grieving it. Takes the Association out of the bargaining process. Should be an adjustment of pay scales. Not a bonus that can be adjusted or taken away at any time. Does this invert the pay scales for second or third year guys?

Nope... The 2nd and 3rd pay step pilots all got the 5k signing bonus and the 20k retention bonuses as well as the 12.5k TA bonus.

For my first three and a half years I'll have received 37.5k in bonuses. I know it's not 80k like endeavor but it's 32.5k more than I expected. I don't commute, +50k for 2016 (2nd/3rd pay step), and I am home nearly every day. Even though I'm pretty junior on reserve I'm happy with my pay and QOL here.

04-06-2016 | 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyWago

I would contact HR honestly and ask amd explain your situation and see what they say. Thise folks are the ones that make those decisions on bonuses

But I wouldn't be completely trusting with them. Remember, they WANT you with the least amount of cost. I wouldn't believe them until you see it in black and white within a contract. Oh wait.....

04-06-2016 | 08:32 AM

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I think it would be funny if every other regional offered a $10k bonus to all
new hires who came directly from envoy.

04-06-2016 | 08:32 AM

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Sound like things really are improving at Envoy. Hope it works out for all concerned.

Now, if we could just get you guys to stick with one main company thread (like everyone else does) instead of starting new ones every time someone farts over there, we'd all be happy.

04-06-2016 | 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by msprj2

I think it would be funny if every other regional offered a $10k bonus to all
new hires who came directly from envoy.

This would be a beautiful thing. Parker would have no choice but to up his ante.

And so on.

Let the bidding wars escalate!!

04-06-2016 | 09:47 AM

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Sound like things really are improving at Envoy. Hope it works out for all concerned.

Now, if we could just get you guys to stick with one main company thread (like everyone else does) instead of starting new ones every time someone farts over there, we'd all be happy.

To be fair it's usually because the other ones have deteriorated so much that they no longer serve as a viable means of communication. And then there are the non-employees that start new threads for envoy just because they think it's funny.

04-06-2016 | 10:57 AM

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Just goes to show that the promise of flow thru isnt enough for pilots already in 121 positions to jump over. And they cant find new blood on the streets

Shortage = here. Now how bout raising your FO pay Envoy???? Or would that hurt the millions your CEOs and the like pocket each year?

Envoy's CEO has been begging to raise pay for quite some time now. The problem with Envoy being wholly owned by American is that nobody in Envoy management, including the President/CEO, has the keys to the piggy bank. Anything to do with an increase in pilot pay has to be approved by papa AAG. And AAG has been hoping that flow would be enough of an incentive to new hires. They're starting to realize it's not.