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chrisreedrules 11-19-2016 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by slinger (Post 2246155)
How does earning vacation time work at envoy and psa? Is it the same?

Your first year at PSA you get 1 week of vacation. After year 1 you get 2 weeks. At some point it increases to 3 and 4 weeks but you have to be here quite a while to see that (someone correct me if I'm wrong). And, at the risk of people complaining, I'll just add that you can have a vacation every month as a line holder. In December I'm off from the 21st until New Years and I'll likely have a few days off in January at the beginning of the new year too. So basically I got 2 weeks in a row off over one of the busiest travel times of the year because of our SAP.

NMuir 11-19-2016 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 2245994)
So unless they're banking your extra payments and applying it towards later,

That's the way it seems to read on your first link...




Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 2245994)

I have seen that site before, but there is a lot of conjecture and assumptions and just straight up poor writing on that page with no proof. :(

PilotJ3 11-19-2016 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by slinger (Post 2246155)
How does earning vacation time work at envoy and psa? Is it the same?

For envoy it's depends when you start training. If you start before the 15th of a month it counts for that month accrual. If you start, for example, on January 1 you will acrrue 12 days off for the next year. If you start in January 16, then you only will get 11 days off for the next year.

Then it's 2 full weeks until yr 7, which you will get 3 weeks. If you get to flow before that, you will never see a 3rd week of vacation. I think 4 weeks is on yr 15, not sure about it.

Blizzard 11-19-2016 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2246569)
For envoy it's depends when you start training. If you start before the 15th of a month it counts for that month accrual. If you start, for example, on January 1 you will acrrue 12 days off for the next year. If you start in January 16, then you only will get 11 days off for the next year.

Then it's 2 full weeks until yr 7, which you will get 3 weeks. If you get to flow before that, you will never see a 3rd week of vacation. I think 4 weeks is on yr 15, not sure about it.

OK, so if I started this December 19, I would have no vacation to take until after the entire 2017 calendar year? No vacation to take until you have been on property a year? (not xxx hours per month). Thanks, I appreciate the clarification.

determined2fly 11-19-2016 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2246157)
Your first year at PSA you get 1 week of vacation. After year 1 you get 2 weeks. At some point it increases to 3 and 4 weeks but you have to be here quite a while to see that (someone correct me if I'm wrong). And, at the risk of people complaining, I'll just add that you can have a vacation every month as a line holder. In December I'm off from the 21st until New Years and I'll likely have a few days off in January at the beginning of the new year too. So basically I got 2 weeks in a row off over one of the busiest travel times of the year because of our SAP.



2 weeks after 2nd year, 3 weeks after 7th year and 4 weeks after 14th year...


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Swearingin 11-20-2016 01:49 AM

Lots of Holidays!
 
Total minimum mandatory days of paid leave per year, including Public Holidays:

Afghanistan: 35
Austria: 38
Australia: 30
Belgium: 30
Colombia: 33
Cuba: 33
Canada: 16
Germany: 29
Italy: 32
New Zealand: 31
Russia: 32
USA: 0
Zimbabwe: 33

frankgh 11-20-2016 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by Swearingin (Post 2246632)
Total minimum mandatory days of paid leave per year, including Public Holidays:

Afghanistan: 35
Austria: 38
Australia: 30
Belgium: 30
Colombia: 33
Cuba: 33
Canada: 16
Germany: 29
Italy: 32
New Zealand: 31
Russia: 32
USA: 0
Zimbabwe: 33

I've been to Afghanistan and most of the other places listed as well. You can have them all!

PilotJ3 11-20-2016 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Blizzard (Post 2246572)
OK, so if I started this December 19, I would have no vacation to take until after the entire 2017 calendar year? No vacation to take until you have been on property a year? (not xxx hours per month). Thanks, I appreciate the clarification.

That's correct, you will bid your 2 weeks vacations for 2018 on Nov2017.

Sorry, I know the struggle, I was hired end of 2010 and only had 1 vacation day for 2011. But on the other side, most of the times I used to bid end of the month and beginning of the next one off to get 5-7 days free.

Most of the airlines do accrual per month not by hours worked.

PSA help 11-20-2016 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2245977)
60K first year pay, and 12K pay cut second yr pay.

Do your homework fellas

As of now. It will likely go up another $10k or more before then.

E175 Driver 11-20-2016 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by PSA help (Post 2246855)
As of now. It will likely go up another $10k or more before then.

That tell me right there that after the 824 flows are gone in a couple months, the rest of the flow will begin to sputter.:o

AA will get pilots one way or the other via flow or the 10k apps they have on file.


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