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Originally Posted by Upntheair27 (Post 2244720)

So the PSA base pay of 38.50x75 plus $3000 for hotels comes out to $37,650. I know its close but am i missing something or did they slightly raise hourly pay rate recently too?

Hotels should not be counted in there. I hope that they are not including that number.

The $3000 for hotels plus per diem should be counted separately.

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Originally Posted by Dubz (Post 2244689)

Personal perspective, but I believe the reason the WOs/AA are offering bonuses is that they didn't want to adjust the pay scales across the board. It was easier and cheaper to give bonuses and manipulate the pay scales by shifting the year 3 and 4 scales to 1 and 2. It was all done to fill seats.

If I were looking, I would consider the ease of getting to work, anticipated reserve time frame, other QOL issues, and then pay. You will have plenty of time to think about whether or not that 5K differential was worth it when you are on your second year of reserve when you could have sat two or three months... if you find yourself there. You'll make up the 5K month by month by not being on reserve and flying over guarantee.

Best of luck with your decision.

Thanks !

A different perspective was exactly what I was after. I can be quite cynical/skeptical. I understand the motive is to get butts in the door. Skywest likes to brag they don't have to offer bonuses to fill classes.

sorry for thread hijack.

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Originally Posted by BizJet (Post 2244615)

Thankfully all mine are federal. So they should count it towards principle.

Pretty sure all loans are interest first then principal. That's pretty standard across the board isn't it?

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Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2245140)

Pretty sure all loans are interest first then principal. That's pretty standard across the board isn't it?

That might be why my parents told me to bank the bonus, in savings, and just do my monthly payments out of it. I need to call them and find out what they do.

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Originally Posted by Dubz (Post 2244592)

The press release says "over $21000". Looking at the three websites Piedmont's breaks it down to 38.8 (salary) + 16.2 (sign on) + 5 (121 experience bonus); PSA's states "can receive over $21,000 immediately"; and Envoy's says "receive up to $22,100 sign-on bonus on your first day."

That would lead my untrained eye to believe that they wanted to tout 60K 1st year FO pay across the board and like the previous examples... what one gets they all get.

Has Envoy dropped the 121 experience requirement for the 5K? Neither Envoy or PSA gave a specific breakdown that I could find.

The American Wholly Owns all upped the first year pay to 60k to match Deltas WO. That was the reason for it. Great time to be in industry. Upgrade is slower at Endeavor and has no flow. Piedmont atm is the fastest upgrade, followed by PSA, then Envoy. PSA has the best schedules, Envoy has the 175's, and Piedmont is doubling in size with the 145's. Any WO is good choice, with American at the top IMO

Too old for Envoy or other Regional?

A couple of questions for those in the know. A friend of mine is a high time helo guy, age 53 years old, with a PVT/Instrument fixed-wing ratings. At what point would he become competitive for the regionals. How many hours fixed-wing and how many hours multi engine. Thanks in advance for any positive replys.

Too old ? continued...

I forgot to add that he is US Army trained. Me too..

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Originally Posted by collegedropout9 (Post 2245937)

I forgot to add that he is US Army trained. Me too..

Envoy offers a rotary transition program for ex-mil rotary types.

http://www.envoyair.com/2016/11/07/calling-military-helicopter-pilots-join-the-envoy-rotor-transition-program/

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Originally Posted by collegedropout9 (Post 2245936)

61.159 - essentially he needs 250 airplane PIC of which 100 is CC and 25 night. Add 50 ME and you're set. Actually, for most (all...?) of the regionals, 25 ME will work. The other 25 can be counted from your sim in training.