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JayBee 11-16-2016 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Upntheair27 (Post 2244566)
Before PSA was claiming $58000 with a 20,000K sign on bonus, now its 60K with only 21,000K bonus. Arent we missing a thousand dollar bill in there somewhere?

don't worry about details and reading the contract - just sign here

Upntheair27 11-16-2016 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 2244574)
don't worry about details and reading the contract - just sign here

haha oh yeah of course...maybe if I were 22 again and they were hiring me into a new shiny CRJ700 with 600 hours total time. Ahh, the good ol days making 17,000 first year pay :-)

MaCrOs 11-16-2016 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by BizJet (Post 2244534)
$22,100 * .20 (assuming 20% tax) = $17,680 ($4,420 is tax)

I could pay off roughly 50% of my student loan with that amount.

Bonuses are taxed at flat rate of 25%

BizJet 11-16-2016 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2244581)
Bonuses are taxed at flat rate of 25%

So $16,575 after the tax. Still not to bad. Now if only Envoy had better reserve times...

PleaseComplete 11-16-2016 11:49 AM

not trying to be disingenuous here but having several offers on my table is making it hard to decide and....

what i can't shake from my mind is if it was such a good place to work than why do they have to throw big bonuses at you (envoy or psa) ?

every time i think that previous thought I think of that movie Tommy Boy where Chris Farley says "if you want me to poop in a box and write guaranteed on it...."

also, i keep thinking about how American Eagle got screwed on the flow

i don't know, as i said not trying to be disingenuous here having hard time deciding what is best for me

havick 11-16-2016 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 2244585)
not trying to be disingenuous here but having several offers on my table is making it hard to decide and....

what i can't shake from my mind is if it was such a good place to work than why do they have to throw big bonuses at you (envoy or psa) ?

every time i think that previous thought I think of that movie Tommy Boy where Chris Farley says "if you want me to poop in a box and write guaranteed on it...."

also, i keep thinking about how American Eagle got screwed on the flow

i don't know, as i said not trying to be disingenuous here having hard time deciding what is best for me

Either way, the longer you wait to make your decision to get into a class, you're doing yourself a disservice by losing seniority at whichever carrier you decide to go with as others join ahead of you at 50/month.

Dubz 11-16-2016 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Upntheair27 (Post 2244566)
Before PSA was claiming $58000 with a 20,000K sign on bonus, now its 60K with only 21,000K bonus. Arent we missing a thousand dollar bill in there somewhere?

The press release says "over $21000". Looking at the three websites Piedmont's breaks it down to 38.8 (salary) + 16.2 (sign on) + 5 (121 experience bonus); PSA's states "can receive over $21,000 immediately"; and Envoy's says "receive up to $22,100 sign-on bonus on your first day."

That would lead my untrained eye to believe that they wanted to tout 60K 1st year FO pay across the board and like the previous examples... what one gets they all get.

Has Envoy dropped the 121 experience requirement for the 5K? Neither Envoy or PSA gave a specific breakdown that I could find.

chrisreedrules 11-16-2016 11:59 AM

The industry has changed immensely in the past couple years. American is invested more in its regionals than any other legacy and it would hit American harder if it's WOs didn't succeed than it ultimately would UA and DA. Therefore, they are making themselves the most attractive to new hires to ensure their supply of regional pilots. Endeavor offers attractive pay. So does Republic, although it isn't as good as Endeavor or the WOs and they have a longer upgrade. SkyWest has good bases and pretty good pay/contract. Lots of places are attractive right now based on whatever scenario you're working with. The WOs however, are far from being a "guaranteed turd in a box" as CF so eloquently put it.

havick 11-16-2016 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Dubz (Post 2244592)
The press release says "over $21000". Looking at the three websites Piedmont's breaks it down to 38.8 (salary) + 16.2 (sign on) + 5 (121 experience bonus); PSA's states "can receive over $21,000 immediately"; and Envoy's says "receive up to $22,100 sign-on bonus on your first day."

That would lead my untrained eye to believe that they wanted to tout 60K 1st year FO pay across the board and like the previous examples... what one gets they all get.

Has Envoy dropped the 121 experience requirement for the 5K? Neither Envoy or PSA gave a specific breakdown that I could find.

No previous 121 time required at all at Envoy for the full bonus. The 5k is simply if you take a legacy type as opposed to the 175. So if you take the 145 or CRJ you'll get the whole 22k.

BizJet 11-16-2016 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by havick (Post 2244594)
No previous 121 time required at all at Envoy for the full bonus. The 5k is simply if you take a legacy type as opposed to the 175. So if you take the 145 or CRJ you'll get the whole 22k.

How does PSA break their new bonus down?


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