BizJet

I know there are a lot of these vs threads, however with the deluge of information it's hard to compare the two.

I'm an ex XJT guy looking at getting back into the rat race. I've been trying to decide between PSA and Envoy based on my current residence.

Envoy:
121 Preferred Interview. E.g. no tech or system questions. HR only.
Already 145 Typed
DFW has 10+ flights daily from my current residence with almost 100% schedule certainty.
ORD has 3/4 during the travel season going to only 1 floater during the winter.
Reserve looks like it sucks on the 145. Almost three years!!?? Also I'm not to kosher on the whole JM'ing nonsense.
175 isn't possible as I'm very young. The recruiter told me it's age based in class and based on my age it's practically impossible.
I refuse to commute or move to LGA. That's at best a two leg commute. Which I did at XJT and it sucked the life out of me.
CRJ is going away in 2017/18.
Upgrade is about 5 years??

PSA:
Full interview as I didn't meet their 121 requirement.
I'd have to move to base unless I got CLT out of the gate.
CLT has about 3 daily flights depending on the month.
SAP once I'm R1.
Reserve is under a year depending on base. R1 right under a year and dropping at the DAY junior base.
No reserve BS if I've read the threads correctly.
Upgrade in about 2.

Basically, Envoy is the best for commuting and PSA is the best for short reserve and SAP. I'd love to have the best of both worlds but that's fantasy.

fearofpavement

Well it appears you've analyzed it pretty well. Guess you'll just have to make your decision. Would you be in a situation where you could/would move to a base somewhere? I was in a situation where I was looking for a regional and was unwilling to relocate. It does limit options. I picked PSA because I think they had the best "package" but your situation may not be the same.
Sometimes, when faced with a similar decision, I actually make a list with the pros/cons for each option next to each other. Leave that lay for a while and keep adding to it as you think of new things that matter to you.

Folove

Ex XJT guy here. I didn't qualify for PSA expedited Skype interview either. I recently interviewed with them and it was a walk in the park. Good guys at the presentation who didn't try to brain wash you and told you "if you think this the right place for you, come join us. If not, then thanks for coming out and good luck to you."

The HR portion was where they asked most questions. My technical was all Jeppesen and nothing more. The entire interview lasted about 10 minutes. The written test in my opinion determines how long your interview will last. I personally know I did well as I studied my butt off and didn't try to take anything for granted. Because of that, I did very well on the written and knew all the answers. The gouge is online also which makes it that much easier. PSA is growing and seems to be the place to be at right now. I didn't select ENY for that very reason. Reserve. ENY from my understanding is just like ASA.

ENY is a great company but lots of senior people there from what I read. I can't do reserve much longer anymore as I was reserve the entire time I was at ASA(ExpressJet). However, ENY seems to be hiring tons of people. Reserve times may drop if they haven't already. It really comes down to what do you prefer most.

Best of luck!

fearofpavement

I should add that the SAP that PSA has is especially valuable to a commuter.

JohnnyDingus

I think people will hold clt out of training according to this last fo vacancy announcement.


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JayBee

Skywest.

JSing.

Pilot Sharp

Former Xjt 145 FO based IAD and IAH coming to PSA in 2014 was one decision I have never regretted. SAP is absolutely awesome! Never miss a holiday again! Heck take the week off for the holidays if you want.

determined2fly

West coast guy here...you guys think commuting from CLT would be palatable? Thanks

cbrittle

Painful process. Think long term.

chrisreedrules

I've met a few who do it, and it sounds kind of brutal. Lots of red eyes, get to base early before a trip and sleep in the CLT crew room for a few hours before show time. We have a few senior CAs who have commuted from the west coast for years, but they've also been round 1 since we've had SAP and can SAP to 18 days off which makes it palatable. First year commuting from the west coast wouldn't be fun though and CLT is about the only base it would work out for you unless you want to double down on your pain and 2-leg commute it (I know a guy who does it and I shake my head every time). Bottom line is that being on reserve while commuting from the west coast would suck. But, reserve shouldn't be terribly long if you're dead set on PSA. Although if I were on the west coast I'd be looking at SkyWest personally.