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11-15-2016 | 12:59 PM
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Ahh, no. It will increase because an increase is contained in the LOA. For every 63(?) captains we gain one slot at AA. With 30+ acft still to come at PSA there is no way the flow will not increase.
11-15-2016 | 01:48 PM
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Huh? Our flow increasing is part of an LOA. We're filling 2 classes /month well into the new year. No reason I can see why it won't. We still have some of the most growth left of any regional around today.
11-15-2016 | 06:04 PM
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On the other hand, Delta is also hiring envoy FOs. So doesn't matter which way he goes it will be fine.
I would say go with the easiest commute. Been here 6yrs and being Jmanned only 3 times and 2 of them I was able to get out of it without issues.
11-15-2016 | 06:27 PM
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11-15-2016 | 06:31 PM
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Huh? Our flow increasing is part of an LOA.
That's quite the misleading statement since it's contingent upon your staffing numbers changing. Smoke and mirrors as y'all continue to gloss over the fact that it's not a guarantee.
We're filling 2 classes /month well into the new year. No reason I can see why it won't. We still have some of the most growth left of any regional around today.
I suppose time will tell. But until then....you're still at the slower flow.
That's quite the misleading statement since it's contingent upon your staffing numbers changing. Smoke and mirrors as y'all continue to gloss over the fact that it's not a guarantee.
We're filling 2 classes /month well into the new year. No reason I can see why it won't. We still have some of the most growth left of any regional around today.
I suppose time will tell. But until then....you're still at the slower flow.
11-15-2016 | 06:34 PM
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Concur... personally, I don't think it will much matter which WO a person chooses today. I suspect that flow and salary will be virtually the same across the board; with only subtle differences in work rules. I find it hard to believe that Delta, United, or any other carrier sees PSA, Envoy, Endeavor, etc. on a resume and favors one over the other. How does one's work day or responsibility vary significantly over the other? But what do I know... I'm just a pilot. It's been said a million times, select based on QOL -- most would say that QOL is best attained by minimizing one's effort in getting to and from work.
11-16-2016 | 02:36 AM
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That's why they are getting major engine overhauls and new interiors...
11-16-2016 | 07:25 AM
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Much has been made on this board about schedules at Envoy. I have to be honest. It's LARGELY EXAGGERATED! There are a few anti Envoy types here that are constantly posting anything bad about the company possible and that includes schedules.
I will admit though that there are issues with a few of the sequences. However, these should affect very few pilots and not on every single sequence. As has been posted ad nauseum here, the issues lie in the flight file that is assigned to Envoy by AAG. The lack of midday flying has been one of the central issues Envoy has faced in the past year.
Expect anything that is an issue to improve in January or February as AAG is expected to add midday flying to the Envoy package.
After saying all of that, you are still going to flow to American. And you are going to flow faster than PSA or PDT. These three carriers are the only no interview and automatic flow in the industry. Envoy's flow percentages and contract language are far superior to PSA and PDT as well. If you want AA, then Envoy is where you want to be.
I will admit though that there are issues with a few of the sequences. However, these should affect very few pilots and not on every single sequence. As has been posted ad nauseum here, the issues lie in the flight file that is assigned to Envoy by AAG. The lack of midday flying has been one of the central issues Envoy has faced in the past year.
Expect anything that is an issue to improve in January or February as AAG is expected to add midday flying to the Envoy package.
After saying all of that, you are still going to flow to American. And you are going to flow faster than PSA or PDT. These three carriers are the only no interview and automatic flow in the industry. Envoy's flow percentages and contract language are far superior to PSA and PDT as well. If you want AA, then Envoy is where you want to be.
11-16-2016 | 08:12 AM
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"When you add up Envoy’s increased signing bonus"
Envoy boosts industry-leading starting pay to $60,000! | Envoy Air
Envoy boosts industry-leading starting pay to $60,000! | Envoy Air
11-16-2016 | 09:44 AM
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"When you add up Envoy’s increased signing bonus"
Envoy boosts industry-leading starting pay to $60,000! | Envoy Air
Envoy boosts industry-leading starting pay to $60,000! | Envoy Air
PSA also doing this?
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