Search

Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

Envoy or PSA

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-16-2016 | 12:09 PM
  #71  
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 375
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by PSA help
Paying off high interest loans will save you a TON of money in the long run!
Except that Sallie Mae applies extra payments to interest, not principle
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 12:16 PM
  #72  
PleaseComplete's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by havick
Either way, the longer you wait to make your decision to get into a class, you're doing yourself a disservice by losing seniority at whichever carrier you decide to go with as others join ahead of you at 50/month.
Roger that, for what its worth in my mind its down to PSA or Skywest - leaning towards PSA but hesitant for previously stated reasons.
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 12:25 PM
  #73  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by NMuir
Except that Sallie Mae applies extra payments to interest, not principle
Thankfully all mine are federal. So they should count it towards principle.
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 01:32 PM
  #74  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Dubz
The press release says "over $21000". Looking at the three websites Piedmont's breaks it down to 38.8 (salary) + 16.2 (sign on) + 5 (121 experience bonus); PSA's states "can receive over $21,000 immediately"; and Envoy's says "receive up to $22,100 sign-on bonus on your first day."

That would lead my untrained eye to believe that they wanted to tout 60K 1st year FO pay across the board and like the previous examples... what one gets they all get.

Has Envoy dropped the 121 experience requirement for the 5K? Neither Envoy or PSA gave a specific breakdown that I could find.
envoy
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000

PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000

Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 02:32 PM
  #75  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 221
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by PiedmontFlyer
envoy
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000

PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000

Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
Perfect... thanks.
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 02:42 PM
  #76  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 221
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by PleaseComplete
not trying to be disingenuous here but having several offers on my table is making it hard to decide and....

what i can't shake from my mind is if it was such a good place to work than why do they have to throw big bonuses at you (envoy or psa) ?

every time i think that previous thought I think of that movie Tommy Boy where Chris Farley says "if you want me to poop in a box and write guaranteed on it...."

also, i keep thinking about how American Eagle got screwed on the flow

i don't know, as i said not trying to be disingenuous here having hard time deciding what is best for me
Personal perspective, but I believe the reason the WOs/AA are offering bonuses is that they didn't want to adjust the pay scales across the board. It was easier and cheaper to give bonuses and manipulate the pay scales by shifting the year 3 and 4 scales to 1 and 2. It was all done to fill seats.

If I were looking, I would consider the ease of getting to work, anticipated reserve time frame, other QOL issues, and then pay. You will have plenty of time to think about whether or not that 5K differential was worth it when you are on your second year of reserve when you could have sat two or three months... if you find yourself there. You'll make up the 5K month by month by not being on reserve and flying over guarantee.

Best of luck with your decision.
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 03:00 PM
  #77  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
Default

By that logic it's

Envoy
Pro: Commuting, full bonus
Con: Reserve Length, contract violations, lifer top heavy

PSA
Pro: Reserve length, SAP, senior line holder at around a year
Con: Commuting, smaller bonus, Most likely will have to move

So it's leaning towards PSA just for the QOL of reserve and line holding.
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 03:28 PM
  #78  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 221
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by BizJet
By that logic it's

Envoy
Pro: Commuting, full bonus
Con: Reserve Length, contract violations, lifer top heavy

PSA
Pro: Reserve length, SAP, senior line holder at around a year
Con: Commuting, smaller bonus, Most likely will have to move

So it's leaning towards PSA just for the QOL of reserve and line holding.
All depends on what your priorities are... if you don't want to move go to Envoy. If you want to live in a PSA base pack your bags. If you want to fly a lot soon and have more control over your schedule... PSA. I'm glad you and many have the option to choose. I'm no naysayer, I don't think there's all that much of a difference between the three. You would have to ask an Envoyer but my guess is that reserve times are shortening now that classes are filling up.
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 03:28 PM
  #79  
VoiceOfReason's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 452
Likes: 0
From: CR9 CA, FT Minivan Driver
Default

Originally Posted by PiedmontFlyer
envoy
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000

PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000

Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
Man, that's a lot of "IFs"...banking on lateral movement once again.

The Poach...I mean, the Purge begins!
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 03:37 PM
  #80  
Line holder
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
From: N/A
Default

Originally Posted by PiedmontFlyer
envoy
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000

PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000

Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
So the PSA base pay of 38.50x75 plus $3000 for hotels comes out to $37,650. I know its close but am i missing something or did they slightly raise hourly pay rate recently too?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Skyvector
Envoy Airlines
6966
06-18-2022 11:07 AM
PilotCrusader
Envoy Airlines
120
05-31-2016 09:02 AM
404yxl
PSA Airlines
392
03-22-2016 03:47 PM
PilotCrusader
PSA Airlines
179
07-07-2015 09:58 AM
Skyvector
PSA Airlines
85
05-06-2015 02:08 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices