Envoy or PSA
#72
Roger that, for what its worth in my mind its down to PSA or Skywest - leaning towards PSA but hesitant for previously stated reasons.
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The press release says "over $21000". Looking at the three websites Piedmont's breaks it down to 38.8 (salary) + 16.2 (sign on) + 5 (121 experience bonus); PSA's states "can receive over $21,000 immediately"; and Envoy's says "receive up to $22,100 sign-on bonus on your first day."
That would lead my untrained eye to believe that they wanted to tout 60K 1st year FO pay across the board and like the previous examples... what one gets they all get.
Has Envoy dropped the 121 experience requirement for the 5K? Neither Envoy or PSA gave a specific breakdown that I could find.
That would lead my untrained eye to believe that they wanted to tout 60K 1st year FO pay across the board and like the previous examples... what one gets they all get.
Has Envoy dropped the 121 experience requirement for the 5K? Neither Envoy or PSA gave a specific breakdown that I could find.
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000
PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000
Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
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envoy
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000
PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000
Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000
PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000
Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
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not trying to be disingenuous here but having several offers on my table is making it hard to decide and....
what i can't shake from my mind is if it was such a good place to work than why do they have to throw big bonuses at you (envoy or psa) ?
every time i think that previous thought I think of that movie Tommy Boy where Chris Farley says "if you want me to poop in a box and write guaranteed on it...."
also, i keep thinking about how American Eagle got screwed on the flow
i don't know, as i said not trying to be disingenuous here having hard time deciding what is best for me
what i can't shake from my mind is if it was such a good place to work than why do they have to throw big bonuses at you (envoy or psa) ?
every time i think that previous thought I think of that movie Tommy Boy where Chris Farley says "if you want me to poop in a box and write guaranteed on it...."
also, i keep thinking about how American Eagle got screwed on the flow
i don't know, as i said not trying to be disingenuous here having hard time deciding what is best for me
If I were looking, I would consider the ease of getting to work, anticipated reserve time frame, other QOL issues, and then pay. You will have plenty of time to think about whether or not that 5K differential was worth it when you are on your second year of reserve when you could have sat two or three months... if you find yourself there. You'll make up the 5K month by month by not being on reserve and flying over guarantee.
Best of luck with your decision.
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By that logic it's
Envoy
Pro: Commuting, full bonus
Con: Reserve Length, contract violations, lifer top heavy
PSA
Pro: Reserve length, SAP, senior line holder at around a year
Con: Commuting, smaller bonus, Most likely will have to move
So it's leaning towards PSA just for the QOL of reserve and line holding.
Envoy
Pro: Commuting, full bonus
Con: Reserve Length, contract violations, lifer top heavy
PSA
Pro: Reserve length, SAP, senior line holder at around a year
Con: Commuting, smaller bonus, Most likely will have to move
So it's leaning towards PSA just for the QOL of reserve and line holding.
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By that logic it's
Envoy
Pro: Commuting, full bonus
Con: Reserve Length, contract violations, lifer top heavy
PSA
Pro: Reserve length, SAP, senior line holder at around a year
Con: Commuting, smaller bonus, Most likely will have to move
So it's leaning towards PSA just for the QOL of reserve and line holding.
Envoy
Pro: Commuting, full bonus
Con: Reserve Length, contract violations, lifer top heavy
PSA
Pro: Reserve length, SAP, senior line holder at around a year
Con: Commuting, smaller bonus, Most likely will have to move
So it's leaning towards PSA just for the QOL of reserve and line holding.
#79
envoy
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000
PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000
Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000
PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000
Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
The Poach...I mean, the Purge begins!
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envoy
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000
PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000
Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
$37,900 base pay + $17,100 signing bonus + $5,000 (if you fly CRJ or E145) = $60,000
PSA
$38,480 base pay + $16,520 signing + $5,000 (if you have CRJ type rating) = $60,000
Piedmont
$38,800 base pay + $16,200 signing + $5,000 (if you have any Part 121 experience) = $60,000
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