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chrisreedrules 11-30-2016 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by sflpilot (Post 2252467)
It is still a b scale and should not be tolerated.

Tell that to the mainline geezers who sold scope for pay.

Simpsons 11-30-2016 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Gman007 (Post 2251841)
So I am still trying to decide where to go tell me if this is correct:


Piedmont:

Pro's
Faster Upgrade 12 - 15 months according to their website
Chance to earn more $$$ by flying extra when possible.
Faster upgrade also means more $$$ sooner
Very short reserve times

Con's
Philadelphia is their only base for the 145. I don't want to commute so I would have to move there and I am not a big fan of Phili.
Bonus is only $16200

Envoy
Pro's
Better bases (I wouldn't mind living on ORD or DFW)
Bonus is $22000

Con's
Long reserve times
Longer upgrade (2.5 years according to Envoy's website)
Horrible schedule (according to the Envoy thread)

I'm sure the 2.5 upgrade is a projection for someone hired now, but what is the current most junior captain at?

Never mind saw it on APC. 5 years

PiedmontFlyer 12-02-2016 01:00 PM

Piedmont awarded ERJ145 captain to July 2016 new hire.

E175 Driver 12-02-2016 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by PiedmontFlyer (Post 2254457)
Piedmont awarded ERJ145 captain to July 2016 new hire.

In old envoy planes! Funny.

Jet Jockey 00 12-02-2016 01:09 PM

Actually, we just got an email that Piedmont is getting 175's

Smutter 12-02-2016 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Gman007 (Post 2251841)
So I am still trying to decide where to go tell me if this is correct:


Piedmont:

Pro's
Faster Upgrade 12 - 15 months according to their website
Chance to earn more $$$ by flying extra when possible.
Faster upgrade also means more $$$ sooner
Very short reserve times

Con's
Philadelphia is their only base for the 145. I don't want to commute so I would have to move there and I am not a big fan of Phili.
Bonus is only $16200

Envoy
Pro's
Better bases (I wouldn't mind living on ORD or DFW)
Bonus is $22000

Con's
Long reserve times
Longer upgrade (2.5 years according to Envoy's website)
Horrible schedule (according to the Envoy thread)

Envoy upgrade is 6+ yrs, horrible would imply something good about our schedules, horrible seems to nice.

stillageek 12-02-2016 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00 (Post 2254465)
Actually, we just got an email that Piedmont is getting 175's

Post the email

Outof410 12-02-2016 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00 (Post 2254465)
Actually, we just got an email that Piedmont is getting 175's

Not anytime soon

daOldMan 12-03-2016 03:16 AM

PDT will never get 175s. Why would AAG waste millions of dollars a month on training, maintenance, management, and other costs? AAG is wisely moving flying around based on fleet type to reduce costs and be more efficient. In the end, PSA will fly the CRJs, Envoy will fly the EJets, and PDT will fly the 145's.

Once the fuel prices rise again and the market tanks, the 50 seaters will find themselves parked in the desert somewhere.

Virga show 12-03-2016 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by Smutter (Post 2254505)
Envoy upgrade is 6+ yrs, horrible would imply something good about our schedules, horrible seems to nice.

Right now it is 6 years at Envoy but with 60 to 70 NH a month and 30 Capt leaving a month that number should drop drastically. We are at the beginning of going from stagnation to steady movement. In 6 months to a year, if it is still 6 years upgrade we are in trouble. Common sense says that's not possible for it to stay 6 years as long as we keep hiring pilots and pilots keep flowing to AA.


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