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Nevada 12-05-2016 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by Virga show (Post 2255298)
2011 NH= 272
2012 NH= 6
2013 NH= 70
2014 NH= 59
2015 NH= 93

2016 NH= 300 +
2017 NH = 600 + at same hire rate now
2017 AA FLOW 360 to 400


You are correct that is good news. Esp if we get more 175's and open more bases. Also not including any attrition to other legacy or LLC's

Any idea what percentage of those are still on property?

RawHide 12-05-2016 03:24 AM

0% of 2017 hires are still on property.

Nevada 12-05-2016 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by RawHide (Post 2256034)
0% of 2017 hires are still on property.

Remarkably helpful, thanks for the insight.

go skers 12-05-2016 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Nevada (Post 2256006)
Any idea what percentage of those are still on property?

The numbers bolded accurately reflect the number of pilots still on property hired during those years.

Nevada 12-05-2016 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by go skers (Post 2256293)
The numbers bolded accurately reflect the number of pilots still on property hired during those years.

Ahhh, gotcha. I thought those were hiring numbers from those years. Thanks!

MKUltra 12-06-2016 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00 (Post 2254465)
Actually, we just got an email that Piedmont is getting 175's

Funny you said that.. i happened to talk with a pdt manager the other day.. he eluded to the same thing... and said it's being worked on...

makes sense. Our 170 175 rates in our cba are much less than republics. Further the average years of service pdt has is rapidly decreasing. Heck we have many year 1 and 2 year captains now. Effectively lowering our overall cost structure. With a length of service of 5 to 7 years many pilots will never see top pay.

E175 Driver 12-06-2016 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by MKUltra (Post 2256754)
Funny you said that.. i happened to talk with a pdt manager the other day.. he eluded to the same thing... and said it's being worked on...

makes sense. Our 170 175 rates in our cba are much less than republics. Further the average years of service pdt has is rapidly decreasing. Heck we have many year 1 and 2 year captains now. Effectively lowering our overall cost structure. With a length of service of 5 to 7 years many pilots will never see top pay.

Make sense. The top 300 Captains at envoy are senior lifers that couldn't moved on and are getting 18yr+ pay. That can't be good for a regional.

MKUltra 12-06-2016 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2256787)
Make sense. The top 300 Captains at envoy are senior lifers that couldn't moved on and are getting 18yr+ pay. That can't be good for a regional.

We don't have that many for sure.. and we have many retirements coming. Plus there are many that will retire when mdt closes. I think our cost structure makes pdt very competative unless we get a renegotiating of the contract

LongTimeListenr 12-06-2016 11:08 PM

The reality is that Parker has stated on multiple occasions that AAG wants each WO to operate a different type of aircraft.

You say there is an email. Post it. Until then it's just more rumors going against the facts that have already been stated by the head guy himself.

MKUltra 12-07-2016 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by LongTimeListenr (Post 2257534)
The reality is that Parker has stated on multiple occasions that AAG wants each WO to operate a different type of aircraft.

You say there is an email. Post it. Until then it's just more rumors going against the facts that have already been stated by the head guy himself.

Why were 170/175 added to the current pdt cba through a LOA?

Why was the FAA informed that pdt will be adding the type in meetings last winter?

This will be the 170/175 flying out of phl which is all brickyard.

I don't know why some people get so sensative about pdt adding them. It's just another plane, that we all fly for c level rates. Republic and American do not have the best relationship right now, further with their new labor rates, I'm sure the flying agreements just signed between American and Republican are not very favorable.

They are coming.. or maybe I am wrong? Doesn't matter to me I'm on the dash till she dies.


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