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Gman007 12-11-2016 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Wink (Post 2260007)
Did the OP make a decision? I really don't think you'd be making a bad choice with either.

Not yet, i do have a class for Envoy and a Interview offered by PDT. However going to the PDT interview will mean postponing my class date at Envoy. I think i prefer PDT from all the info i gathered here since I dont know anybody on either airline but I dont know of its worth pushing back my class date.

MantisToboggan 12-11-2016 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Gman007 (Post 2260785)
Not yet, i do have a class for Envoy and a Interview offered by PDT. However going to the PDT interview will mean postponing my class date at Envoy. I think i prefer PDT from all the info i gathered here since I dont know anybody on either airline but I dont know of its worth pushing back my class date.

It's a career. If you really think the better career move is to go to Piedmont, who cares about a class date somewhere else??

MKUltra 12-11-2016 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Gman007 (Post 2260785)
Not yet, i do have a class for Envoy and a Interview offered by PDT. However going to the PDT interview will mean postponing my class date at Envoy. I think i prefer PDT from all the info i gathered here since I dont know anybody on either airline but I dont know of its worth pushing back my class date.

Call the pdt recruiter, explain the situation. I'm sure they can interview this week and possibly for you in jan class.... they don't want to lose people.

idlethrust 12-11-2016 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Gman007 (Post 2260785)
Not yet, i do have a class for Envoy and a Interview offered by PDT. However going to the PDT interview will mean postponing my class date at Envoy. I think i prefer PDT from all the info i gathered here since I dont know anybody on either airline but I dont know of its worth pushing back my class date.

Just tell envoy you want a later class date,one in a couple of weeks.It's no big deal,people do it everyday. Stuff happens, they know it.It's not that serious. Give yourself ample time to explore the best options for you and your situation.

Virga show 12-12-2016 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by ORDinary (Post 2259539)
Your 2017 AA flow is incorrect, Rick Wilson said they expect to flow 330. Considering they only have classes at AA for 11 months of the year, 300-330 seems more realistic. I hope you're right, do you have any evidence whatsoever?

You are correct 330 is more accurate. I was accounting for 12 months of flow, not 11

Pedro4President 12-12-2016 04:31 AM

Can someone give me specifics on the PDT flow? Is it 1 flow per 125?

Wink 12-12-2016 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2260993)
Can someone give me specifics on the PDT flow? Is it 1 flow per 125?

3/month for the first 350, 1 more a month for each additional 125 pilots added to the seniority list. Currently at 4 a month

Pedro4President 12-12-2016 05:00 AM

APC says you have 469 is that some what close? And how many per month are you hiring?

Pedro4President 12-12-2016 05:52 AM

So per the guy a page or two back you have 60 people not flowing by choice. I had recently heard PDT the number was 100 pilots not flowing.

Quick math. 400 pilots flowing at 4 per month then it's an 8 year flow. Ok so you say your pilot group will increase and then flow 5 per month. 400 pilots flowing at five per month avg is a 6+ flow. Not to mention AA doesn't hire in December. So that's another 5-6 months to add to these numbers.

I'm interested in how PDT comes up with their numbers on a fast flow. The only way you accelerate PDTs flow is by increasing the pilot group. This is very much like a pyramid scheme. If you get in while it's a small group then you are golden but once it gets growing there isn't much to be had.

AZFlyer 12-12-2016 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2261021)
If you get in while it's a small group then you are golden but once it gets growing there isn't much to be had.

Then I guess you had better hurry up!

There's also the unpredictable number of people who will take other jobs/quit/get fired, etc. That brings it down some but it's anybody's guess how much.


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