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Thank you all for your responses. They were very helpful. One last question. I installed quicktrade, and it shows my 3 MV days, and on the 4th day it says 'IN'. What is that?

I believe this is your base day, where you should meet with someone in the chief pilot's office (CPO). If I recall correctly I had to make first contact about this to set up a time to come in, they didn't reach out to me. I'm sure they'll mention this while you're there but this is also a good time to get your SIDA badge/parking pass set up. At ORD this can take several hours with long lines to wait in.

For future codes, there's a document on the my envoy website that (sometimes) can help you decode what's on your schedule.

Here's the direct link (you'll need to be logged in): https://my.envoyair.com/wp-content/u...S_paycodes.pdf

But if that doesn't work its Departments > Flight > Resources Center > Pay Compensation Codes Explained (pdf)

Onboard Wifi
 

Do pilots receive free on board Wifi?

Not that I'm aware of. T-Mobile customers get a free hour every day though. :)

Every flight

My experience also suggests you have to make first contact for your base day. In fact, I didn't know there was a 'base day' until well after I should have done it. Why? Because if no one tells you about it, how do you know to ask about it?

Yep, I called about it the same day and it was too short notice for me to come in. Wasn't a big deal, I just went to the CPO during a long sit on one of my first trips.

Better not let DB on the left catch you....:rolleyes:

As a line check airman, I still can’t believe I see and hear these questions quite frequently. I ALWAYS take the time to explain, at the very least, the basics of reserve, proffering and bidding to new hires. I know this is technically not part of our job description, but most of us fly the line every week and we have to look out for each other. I can’t imagine sending a new hire to the line without at least making sure they now how to check their schedule, proffer, or check their reserve assignents. If your LCA doesn’t do this, that’s just awfully poor form if you ask me.

Ok, rant off, sorry.

To all the new hires, if your LCA doesn’t explain these things, make sure to ask. If you don’t get any answers or still have questions, reach out to your ALPA mentor. The other advice mentioned above is all good as well. I don’t generally like to spend a lot of time in the crew room either, but when you’re new, it’s a good place to chat with and learn from others who may be on long sits or standby shifts. At least this way all those airport appreciation days become somewhat useful.

A very good thoughtful response. I would argue there is just too much to learn on the AA/Envoy operating system side plus flying the airplane in the real world in just (2) 4 day trips. Sabre alone is like learning to become a C++ programmer. Something as simple as looking at an HI6 message from yesterday requires calling a captain or asking someone in the crew room.

It’s $49.00 a month. Should be free to flight crews but of course it’s not....just another baseball bat shot between the legs at Envoy.

When I was sitting airport standby in NY, pretty much every FO I sat with had no clue about the basics of reserve. LCAs can't be responsible for explaining every aspect or reserve, but a ("Congrats you finished IOE you have three days off and on day three don't forget to proffer and confirm. On day four you will need to be in base for your reserve day....") should suffice. A majority of the FOs I have talked to got the midnight phone call.

99.9% of the 'Line CKA's' are in for the $. They don't care once they sign you off.

I remember when I was a new hire, there was zero information coming off of IOE transitioning into reserve. I'd notice quite often you would see a new name on the list, and a shiney new MA on their first day. Go figure. There was no information. Luckily my commute required me to come in the day before anyways, so I was able to get an answer in the crew room that I had JFK AM standby. Otherwise I'd also have had a MA. And before people start faulting the new hire for not asking the questions, these people just got blasted in the face for two months from the fire hose, some times you just don't know the proper questions to ask.

I agree it's not the NHs fault for not knowing the complicated unwritten rules of reserve. The reserve rules are not entirely written down in the contract and if you go off what is written down in the contract then you get bit because some where there was an arbitrator that ruled something and changed the whole meaning. Or some union rep has some side deal with the company and changed everything up.

You’ve obviously never learned to program C++. Sabre may be arcane and there may be several codes to learn to get the job done, but really, it’s not programming by any sense of the word. It’s just different. It’s not point and click, click and drag, drop down select, but if the old farts who aren’t as smart as all you millennials can figure it out I’m sure you can too.

Old farts had different learning tools
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Any good hotels near the Miami airport that are discounted for airline pilots?

I agree that Sabre is not programming in any sense of the word but I will say this:

I learned Basic, Pascal, and DOS back in the day (the latter of which I still find useful from time to time) and was so frustrated with how long it took to do simple tasks like copying a 3.5 inch floppy disk in windows when windows first came out, I gave up on computers entirely for several years. That was about 25 years ago.

25 years ago! (or was it 30? man, I'm getting old!)

Anyway, the fact that what we have to do in Sabre ISN'T "point and click, click and drag, drop down select" is pretty ridiculous for this point in time. It's not 1993 anymore after all.

Just like anything else, Envoy won’t spend money to improve it if it doesn’t help their bottom line.

From what I understand, CCI is a huge step forward from days gone by.


I initially balked at QuickTrade, but it is worth every penny for the aggravation it saves. Even the recently added hotel request is great.

Actually, I thought it can be purchased for $30 or 35 from the Envoy/AA discount site.

But of course, only for use aft of the flight deck.

I have over heard a number of guys going over stuff in the lounge and computer room. My IOE instructor met me at the gate the first day. We went over some stuff later, but they are just in a bad position. But just like every thing else we are responsible for, we only get paid for what happens from “chock to chock.”

The in base day really should happen before IOE and cover so much more than it does. Guys just don’t know what they don’t know, so don’t know what to ask. But the CPOs don’t have the staff to cover everything either. Maybe have an IOE instructor designated (and paid a couple hours) every day to cover stuff. I have no idea how many there are but they wouldn’t have to be aircraft specific so it could be spread around. Each one would only see it every so often. Some guys might be willing to do several days if they got paid and could sleep at home at night.

Actually it’s not even Envoy’s call. AAG is the ones who decides what system to use for flight/crew operating management.


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PSA just announced PHL and ORF as crew domiciles. ORF doesn't surprise me but PHL does.

I knew 2 base announcements were coming. However I was personally skeptical about Philly even though I guess on paper it makes the most sense for the flying PSA does... ORF was a given. If you look on travel planner and see the amount of flights PSA will be operating from ORF to the hubs and how much “through-flying” and funneling through PHL will be done by ORF crews by the end of the year that one was obvious.

PHL though... I wonder how this will impact Piedmont's recruiting efforts. PHL is all they have (for now).

PDT can barely get anyone through training as it is. A buddy of mine started there in June last year (no problems in training or anything) and still hasn’t done IOE.

That’s pretty wild. When I was hired at PSA a few years back it took about 6 months from initial to completion of IOE. I’ll give PSA this: all things considered they have actually done a pretty good job “rebuilding” an airline from scratch. All of the existing infrastructure had to be gutted and reworked. Like taking an old house down to the studs. And they’ve done it pretty quick too. I know it takes the right people in the right positions to make something like that happen. Makes me wonder what the heck is going on over at PDT...

Probably gonna merge with Envoy. :rolleyes:

*grabs popcorn*

Not the craziest idea I’ve heard...

Oh no. Does that mean we’ll lose out on the lovely hotel in ORF??? PSA can have it.

I was thinking the same thing.


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I think we stay somewhere else...

So, cheese-steaks go to PSA... wonder if/when we will hear about LAX??? Any rumors brewing out there???

Been hearing LAX rumors since 2011.

Nothing to see here.

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The 145 doesn't fly west of the Rockies. Why anyone would even believe this nonsense rumor is beyond me.

No LAX until Compass contract ends at the end of 2019. Very slight possibility it might happen early. Not guaranteed, Envoy will try to capture that flying though. Might not be a 175 base if/when it happens.

So is that seven bases of scab love for you all?

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CVG
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PHL
TYS

Is that the one with the rusty light fixtures in the rooms?

So...because the 145 doesn't fly west at this particular moment discounts any possibility of LAX opening in the future? You just may find yourself being surprised in the future....