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Good luck trading away a day. 2+2 would get you a four day but not 2+3.

Thanks for the info. I have a 4 day, that I am desperately trying to get rid of, but have a block of 7 days off in a row, so was planning on dropping my 4, for a 2+3 as no 4 days are open over that block.

It can’t be done until the beginning of next month. Whenever the new contractual month starts. 48 hr is only for OT requests and drop requests.

Misread, thought you were trying to drop a 2+3 for a 4 day. RF 100 TTOT will take care of it when the regular window opens up again, like the guy above said. They still might deny it due to staffing since it'll be different days, but it certainly can't hurt to try.

Thanks again for the info, I agree the way I phrased it was could have been misconstrued. Is there any 'tricks' such as adding an additional day trip to the trade to sweeten the deal for CS?

When I worked at ExpressJet - the 'red/redder equivalent' was almost always tripped for 4 for 5 trade!

I did post it in P2P, with a $100 sweetener too.

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How do reserve swaps work? I’m trying to trade the 16th off next month for a day earlier in the month or later in month (after the 19th). Do I have the option of specifying days in RF 100 SWAP or could I very well be given a day I don’t want? And is this done during the upcoming 48 hr window?

You can specify days. Probably a good idea to give them at least a couple to choose from to give yourself a better chance. It is done during the 48 hour window - after that you will have to wait til the contractual month begins.

Sweet thanks

For all those who were forced to upgrade, don’t forget to volunteer for a complimentary training freeze...

Anyone else hearing we will do street captains next Monday?

There are very easy ways to get around going to upgrade training if you really don't want to go. Senior FOs, if they wanted to, could never upgrade and spend a perpetual cycle of senior FO and training department. Using vacation to block the start of training, bidding back to FO and then displacing to a different equipment for a new long term cycle. I'm not sure why more FOs aren't using the contract to push back against this.

I concur. The company has no problem using the contract to stick it to the pilots. Sub 1000hr 121 guy bidding reserve next month, doing my part.

I'm confused about a portion of the latest MEC Newsblast:

What exactly does that last sentence mean, that if you complete probation that you are eligible for the next 8 retention bonus windows?

Also, when are the FO retention bonuses due to expire? As I understood it was at the beginning of this year but obviously I am mistaken.

It means you are grandfathered in. If they cancel the retention bonus you still get the rest of the payments.

Or even easier, just get a second class medical.

Except FM1 3.8.B says you have to have a first class medical before starting captain training. Violating FM1 isn't a good way to get around going to captain training - it's a good way to get fired.

Doesn’t this only apply to CAs that were displaced?

Yes it does. His use of the word "forced" in his post is an indicator that he was talking about displaced pilots.

I think what Babs was saying is that it applies to CA’s displaced and not FO’s displaced to CA. Which, according to the contract/MEC email appears to be true.

You may be right on both accounts. I had no clue we had something like this in our contract.

It's a part of the domicile procedures LOA. Per the language it does only specify captains that are displaced, not FOs 15.G.4'd to Captain, from what I understand.

Hmmm. Leading pay? Love to know by what basis.

AA in under 6 years haha. The entire post except for the 175’s is blatantly false.

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Hello all.

Long time follower. Had some questions in regard to age of pilots getting the 145 in training. I’m not a Cadet and no previous 121 time. I’m 28 years old and I’m hoping that I could get the 145 (don’t care which base.) I understand that we can’t predict the future in the crystal ball that we all wish we had 😉 so I’m hoping some pilots might be able to shed some light on this from previous classes.

Thanks in advance 🛫

As you said, it's hard to predict. But I'd venture to say that you'd have a pretty good chance.

It typically goes 175/145/CRJ in order of being picked. So the odds are ever in your favor.

What are the odds of 27 year old new hire being able to avoid LGA? I know the vast majority are going to ORD (which is great for me) but there are always a handful sent to LGA

What they have been doing for over a year is offering each 145 slot an option of LGA or ORD, everyone who's going to LGA chose it over ORD

How is seniority determined within class? Age or last 4 of SSN?

For a non-cadet / no previous 121 hire, what are the chances of getting ORD out of class at age 35. 145 or 175 more likely?

Side question, how's family insurance and cost?

thanks.

How’s the crew lounge visit going? Is it worth driving out there, to find out what’s going on with the union or do they normally send a MEC Newsblast after the visit?

Yes, anyone in DFW or ORD in attendance please pass along anything noteworthy.

One you wants us to be given 4 hrs per diem before check-in, because law is 8 hrs bottle throttle and the company policy is 12.

No interest in extending bonuses that ended today(I think that is a good move)

Nothing else, people want less stby, min day, 1st day reserve fixed, long call

And for the most part the company wants us to have none of that, according to the union

Now that is shocking

Could have blown my socks off with that last part. Sarcasm over. The company will not budge so long as classes are full. The rotor and hva guys/gals are what’s going to slow our pay from going up. Not that I blame them individually but management definitely pulled a coup with those programs. Essentially using those bonuses and paid training to delay paying the current pilot group. Oh well.

Are you Fing kidding me?!?

The union is concerned with the company being more restrictive on drinking before flying?

There are only 3 things that the union should be concerned about.

1. Flow- The company is blatantly violating the flow agreement.

2. Reserve Rules. Envoy’s reserve rules are outdated and complete BS! Just ask guys who made the jump from another carrier and they will shed some light on what an actual reserve system is like.

3. Pay raises. Envoy no longer has “industry leading pay” Everyone knows money talks. With the flow at 9 years for new hires, the company must come up with a different selling point other than “The 6 year flow”

It is a pilots’s market now! We as a pilot group need to take advantage of that. Call, email, text your union reps! Get the point across that we are worth more!

I’m pretty sure last time the union did the rounds everyone voiced the same points of concern as listed above. I guess it fell on deaf ears.

From memory pretty much everyone that happened to be on a sit/reserve at the time of the meeting (at least in LGA) pretty much brought up the fact that their primary concerns were with pay and then reserve rules.

Is the company violating the flow agreement, or does this fall back on our union again for the weak language? To me the LOA seems clear. They can meter to 25 without any reason what so ever.

Not “what so ever” and not when lines are low 70s and ny has part time lines.