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Old 05-03-2017 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Half wing
Haha, jeez guys, I used an emoji.. It's not like I said Skywest has hotter Flight attendants, even though... they do.

A New Survey Reveals Which Airline Has the Hottest Flight Attendants - Maxim

So, for your travel bennies, are you still standby? Does Envoy priority on American go by time of checkin like at American? If so that blows for senior pilots but I guess it's great for you guys.

The flow is pretty awesome but aren't you guys only averaging 15-16 days off? Do you guys have any kind of min credit per day or just duty rigs? Seems like with so few days off you should be getting pay in the high 80's. Luckily, I think with all the retirements coming that Envoy should be able get some more of these QOL essentials. Good luck!
Word is, hiring of FA's is "improving" in several departments . Just a rumor though. 15-16 days off seems pretty nice. Is that low compared to others? Like significantly low?
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Old 05-03-2017 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
As for the schedules, well they get better every month. I genuinely believe they are comparable to most now, at least in most catagories.
Except in ORD, where you have to be a CA-eligible FO or a 20-year CA to hold anything but the worst few lines.
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Old 05-03-2017 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
Except in ORD, where you have to be a CA-eligible FO or a 20-year CA to hold anything but the worst few lines.
OK, you could be right, I can't speak to those lines. Are you on the CRJ or is that on both aircraft up there?
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Old 05-03-2017 | 10:57 AM
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Latest blast from the Union.


LEC 083 MEETING OVERVIEW – APRIL 28, 2017

We want to thank all of the LEC 083 pilots who attended our local council meeting last Friday at the DFW Airport. We discussed several issues that produced lively debate. Below is a summary of the topics discussed.

E-175 Options – Envoy announced they will be exercising 4 E-175 aircraft of the 90 total Options which is great news for our airline. We understand that 2 of the optioned aircraft will arrive in November 2017 with the next 2 arriving in December 2017. This means that Envoy will operate 44 E-175 aircraft by the end of 2017. Envoy Management had not approached the Association to discuss PBS at the time of the meeting.



EMB-140 Aircraft – With Air Wisconsin’s upcoming departure from AAG’s regional feed network, AAG is asking PSA and Envoy to increase their flying capacity to cover this additional flying. Combined with paid-off leases and low fuel costs, AAG is preparing to deploy the rest of Envoy’s EMB-140 fleet (59 total) currently in short-term storage at SJT. Unfortunately, we do not know if Envoy will be able to staff these additional aircraft and we are unsure if AAG will place this flying out for bid. Your LEC 083 Leadership expressed concerns about the costs this growth could have on the current pilot group as it concerns junior manning practices and the effects on the flow through. Envoy Management also stated the EMB-145/EMB-140 fleet will be undergoing an FMS upgrade soon and possibly Wi-Fi installation, pending an AAG economics review.



Negotiations: Domicile Flexibility LOA – Envoy Management is no longer interested in the proposed Satellite Domicile LOAs that were the subject of negotiations in 2015/2016. However, the Company still wants the ability to be “more flexible” when it comes to opening and closing pilot domiciles and have proposed a new letter of agreement. Your LEC 083 Leadership has not been provided with the actual language of the LOA, but have been briefed on the basic concepts of a potential agreement. When it comes to opening a new domicile, the proposed Domicile Flexibility LOA would provide a monetary incentive for a pilot to bid the same equipment in a new base in order to reduce training cycles. In exchange, some TDY limitations would be eliminated when opening a new domicile. When it comes to closing a domicile, the Company incorporated many of the provisions found in the MIA/NY TDY LOUs that were the subject of negotiations in 2015 related to those base closures. However, several concerns remain over domicile closing procedures the Company has proposed as it relates to the Company’s resistance to “foot print” travel. Your LEC 083 Leadership does not believe a pilot should be forced to travel TDY to/from a closed domicile on a day off. We have asked the Negotiating Committee and the MEC Officers to publish the proposed Domicile Flexibility LOA to the pilot group as soon as possible. Once that information is transmitted, we will be asking pilots for more feedback.



Other Negotiations – Unfortunately, Management does not seem to have the bandwidth to negotiate more than one item at a time. While a much-needed fix to our reserve system is not currently being negotiated, the Company has suggested that if the pilots can approve domicile flexibility, they will be more inclined to negotiate necessary reserve modifications shortly thereafter.



Flow Through – In June, the last of the 824 flow through pilots will have flowed to AA and that means we will start the Protected Pilot flow through list. The Association has not been given specific flow through projections broken down by month by the Company for the Protected Pilot flow through group for 2017. However, your LEC Leadership is concerned that Envoy Management continues to incorrectly communicate that metering associated with this flow through group is a maximum figure when the agreement clearly states otherwise. We will continue to closely monitor this information to ensure the CBA is being enforced correctly.



EMB-145 Training in France – As you know, Envoy has announced that pilots conducting quick upgrade training on the EMB-145 this summer may conduct that training in France due to limited training resources. Your LEC 083 Leadership has expressed numerous quality of life concerns over the location of this training including hotel accommodations, food availability and expense, personal safety, connectivity with family/friends back home, etc. Members from the Security Committee and the Hotel Committee will conduct a site visit soon and will better evaluate the conditions our pilots will be exposed to. Once the site visit is conducted, we will work with Management to satisfy any outstanding concerns.



Monthly Schedules – Monthly Schedules continue to be a topic at the forefront of the LEC 083 Leadership’s focus. We were originally told that early 2017 schedules would see marked improvements. While these schedule improvements have not been realized yet, we continue to ask our MEC Officers and Scheduling Committee to push the Company for positive changes to our schedules.



Soft Landing Program – MEC Chairman Sam Pool has asked the MEC if the Envoy pilots would be interested in providing a “soft landing” for other regional airline pilots previously employed by an ALPA carrier who decide to make the transition to Envoy. The “soft landing” would provide some type of monetary incentive for a pilot to start over at Envoy and would have no added benefit as it concerns seniority bidding or flow through. Please provide feedback to your local representatives concerning this issue.



401(k) Default Contributions – Partly due to turn over caused by the flow through, participation in Envoy’s 401(k) program is relatively low when considering past participation. The MEC Officers and the R&I Committee have recommended that all future new hire pilots be subject to a 401(k) default contribution that would automatically begin their 401(k) participation. We asked the R&I Committee to work with ALPA National to research this proposal further since early participation in a 401(k) program traditionally provides a positive financial foundation.



Return to Envoy – Both PSA and PDT have an ability for their flow through pilots to return to their respective airline if they do not successfully complete new hire training at American Airlines. Your LEC 083 Leadership asked pilots if the Envoy pilots should seek parody with PSA and PDT when it relates to this program. Again, please provide feedback to your local representatives concerning this issue.



Contract Compliance – Contract Compliance disputes with the Company continue to be prominent. The Association is getting reports of pilots being expected to have or use a cell phone for Company business, reports of high numbers of PO/PVD/RTD denials, reports of Crew Scheduling’s incorrect application of Junior Man and Extension events, reports of F&H Solutions incorrectly denying FMLA applications, and reports of pilots being scheduled to work more than 6 consecutive days of duty during transition without a calendar day free from duty. When these issues arise, please submit as much detail as possible and collect as much evidence as possible. Then file a contract dispute on the alpa.org website and report the dispute to your local representatives.


In this profession, it’s not always easy to make time for family, much less union meetings. The LEC 083 Leadership Team appreciates those that found time to attend the meeting last week.

As always, if you have any questions or concerns don’t hesitate to contact your LEC 083 Leadership Team.

In Unity,

Looks like the will mess with the flow.
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Old 05-03-2017 | 11:11 AM
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Any word on the vacancy bid that was supposed to be run today?
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Old 05-03-2017 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SullyJR
Any word on the vacancy bid that was supposed to be run today?
They run the bid manually by hand. Expect the prelim in a day or two. Expect the flow plan 3-5 days after the prelim.
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Old 05-03-2017 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
OK, you could be right, I can't speak to those lines. Are you on the CRJ or is that on both aircraft up there?
I'm on the embraer, not sure about the crj.
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Old 05-03-2017 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
ummary of the topics discussed.

E-175 Options – Envoy announced they will be exercising 4 E-175 aircraft of the 90 total Options which is great news for our airline. We understand that 2 of the optioned aircraft will arrive in November 2017 with the next 2 arriving in December 2017. This means that Envoy will operate 44 E-175 aircraft by the end of 2017. Envoy Management had not approached the Association to discuss PBS at the time of the meeting.



EMB-140 Aircraft – With Air Wisconsin’s upcoming departure from AAG’s regional feed network, AAG is asking PSA and Envoy to increase their flying capacity to cover this additional flying. Combined with paid-off leases and low fuel costs, AAG is preparing to deploy the rest of Envoy’s EMB-140 fleet (59 total) currently in short-term storage at SJT. Unfortunately, we do not know if Envoy will be able to staff these additional aircraft and we are unsure if AAG will place this flying out for bid. Your LEC 083 Leadership expressed concerns about the costs this growth could have on the current pilot group as it concerns junior manning practices and the effects on the flow through. Envoy Management also stated the EMB-145/EMB-140 fleet will be undergoing an FMS upgrade soon and possibly Wi-Fi installation, pending an AAG economics review.



Negotiations: Domicile Flexibility LOA – Envoy Management is no longer interested in the proposed Satellite Domicile LOAs that were the subject of negotiations in 2015/2016. However, the Company still wants the ability to be “more flexible” when it comes to opening and closing pilot domiciles and have proposed a new letter of agreement. Your LEC 083 Leadership has not been provided with the actual language of the LOA, but have been briefed on the basic concepts of a potential agreement. When it comes to opening a new domicile, the proposed Domicile Flexibility LOA would provide a monetary incentive for a pilot to bid the same equipment in a new base in order to reduce training cycles. In exchange, some TDY limitations would be eliminated when opening a new domicile. When it comes to closing a domicile, the Company incorporated many of the provisions found in the MIA/NY TDY LOUs that were the subject of negotiations in 2015 related to those base closures. However, several concerns remain over domicile closing procedures the Company has proposed as it relates to the Company’s resistance to “foot print” travel. Your LEC 083 Leadership does not believe a pilot should be forced to travel TDY to/from a closed domicile on a day off. We have asked the Negotiating Committee and the MEC Officers to publish the proposed Domicile Flexibility LOA to the pilot group as soon as possible. Once that information is transmitted, we will be asking pilots for more feedback.



Other Negotiations – Unfortunately, Management does not seem to have the bandwidth to negotiate more than one item at a time. While a much-needed fix to our reserve system is not currently being negotiated, the Company has suggested that if the pilots can approve domicile flexibility, they will be more inclined to negotiate necessary reserve modifications shortly thereafter.



Flow Through – In June, the last of the 824 flow through pilots will have flowed to AA and that means we will start the Protected Pilot flow through list. The Association has not been given specific flow through projections broken down by month by the Company for the Protected Pilot flow through group for 2017. However, your LEC Leadership is concerned that Envoy Management continues to incorrectly communicate that metering associated with this flow through group is a maximum figure when the agreement clearly states otherwise. We will continue to closely monitor this information to ensure the CBA is being enforced correctly.



EMB-145 Training in France – As you know, Envoy has announced that pilots conducting quick upgrade training on the EMB-145 this summer may conduct that training in France due to limited training resources. Your LEC 083 Leadership has expressed numerous quality of life concerns over the location of this training including hotel accommodations, food availability and expense, personal safety, connectivity with family/friends back home, etc. Members from the Security Committee and the Hotel Committee will conduct a site visit soon and will better evaluate the conditions our pilots will be exposed to. Once the site visit is conducted, we will work with Management to satisfy any outstanding concerns.



Monthly Schedules – Monthly Schedules continue to be a topic at the forefront of the LEC 083 Leadership’s focus. We were originally told that early 2017 schedules would see marked improvements. While these schedule improvements have not been realized yet, we continue to ask our MEC Officers and Scheduling Committee to push the Company for positive changes to our schedules.



Soft Landing Program – MEC Chairman Sam Pool has asked the MEC if the Envoy pilots would be interested in providing a “soft landing” for other regional airline pilots previously employed by an ALPA carrier who decide to make the transition to Envoy. The “soft landing” would provide some type of monetary incentive for a pilot to start over at Envoy and would have no added benefit as it concerns seniority bidding or flow through. Please provide feedback to your local representatives concerning this issue.



401(k) Default Contributions – Partly due to turn over caused by the flow through, participation in Envoy’s 401(k) program is relatively low when considering past participation. The MEC Officers and the R&I Committee have recommended that all future new hire pilots be subject to a 401(k) default contribution that would automatically begin their 401(k) participation. We asked the R&I Committee to work with ALPA National to research this proposal further since early participation in a 401(k) program traditionally provides a positive financial foundation.



Return to Envoy – Both PSA and PDT have an ability for their flow through pilots to return to their respective airline if they do not successfully complete new hire training at American Airlines. Your LEC 083 Leadership asked pilots if the Envoy pilots should seek parody with PSA and PDT when it relates to this program. Again, please provide feedback to your local representatives concerning this issue.



Contract Compliance – Contract Compliance disputes with the Company continue to be prominent. The Association is getting reports of pilots being expected to have or use a cell phone for Company business, reports of high numbers of PO/PVD/RTD denials, reports of Crew Scheduling’s incorrect application of Junior Man and Extension events, reports of F&H Solutions incorrectly denying FMLA applications, and reports of pilots being scheduled to work more than 6 consecutive days of duty during transition without a calendar day free from duty. When these issues arise, please submit as much detail as possible and collect as much evidence as possible. Then file a contract dispute on the alpa.org website and report the dispute to your local representatives.


In this profession, it’s not always easy to make time for family, much less union meetings. The LEC 083 Leadership Team appreciates those that found time to attend the meeting last week.

As always, if you have any questions or concerns don’t hesitate to contact your LEC 083 Leadership Team.

In Unity,

Looks like the will mess with the flow.:mad:
Surprise surprise! But you're at least techically a American pilot right?
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Old 05-03-2017 | 12:26 PM
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The email doesn't say that they're going to mess with the flow. All it says is that the company isn't going to send more than contractually required. Which did anyone think they were going to anyway? And by the way, most JR CA awarded upgrade today is a 7/20/15 hire.
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Old 05-03-2017 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
The email doesn't say that they're going to mess with the flow. All it says is that the company isn't going to send more than contractually required. Which did anyone think they were going to anyway? And by the way, most JR CA awarded upgrade today is a 7/20/15 hire.
Wow... just saw who it was and only 186 people between me and him before I get the upgrade... I'm an august 2016 hire.
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