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01-15-2018, 08:34 AM
#6721
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
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Originally Posted by Dmaxvelo18
It's all the guys who wanted off for the holidays and are now coming to class. Yeah cadet and RTP guys will keep a somewhat steady flow to NH class. But I feel that the next class in 2 weeks will have far less than today's did.
01-15-2018, 08:52 AM
#6723
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Posts: 2,510
Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
This is true but aren’t all the regionals offering some sort of RTP program?
But once you take the money, you are in their debt.
With the delays in the Envoy/Coast program it could be a six to as much as eight month pipeline with zero time guys. While I’m sure they could buy their way out, it is a tough decision to make. You have to have the money and go through the process with your new dream employer. And you have to be able to explain why you are jumping from one ship to another. I know most regionals are trying to hire as many as they can, but most still have some selectivity and might be gun shy of someone who waffles.
01-15-2018, 09:57 AM
#6725
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 963
Originally Posted by Dmaxvelo18
It's all the guys who wanted off for the holidays and are now coming to class. Yeah cadet and RTP guys will keep a somewhat steady flow to NH class. But I feel that the next class in 2 weeks will have far less than today's did.
01-15-2018, 10:26 AM
#6726
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 60
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I’m not sure exactly how it is structured, but I’m pretty sure not all the RTP guys receive the same amount. Some guys come in zero time. Some just need the multi and others just need to build some total f/w time. I understand the 23K is just the max.
But either way. They have a sizable hook and it is going to take a while to get this disaster of a ship to change course, let alone turn around.
But either way. They have a sizable hook and it is going to take a while to get this disaster of a ship to change course, let alone turn around.
My breakdown for that $24,785 was:
- 15 hours of Cessna "refresher" training with an instructor
- 15 hours Seminole training for MEL add-on
- 121 hours of Cessna timebuild
- 10 hours of Seminole MEL timebuild
Most the guys who are prior-Army and come in with NO quals are going far above my costs to get everything they need. Like, into the $30k or $40k range if they just had absolutely ZERO fixed wing time.
Last edited by Skid Mark; 01-15-2018 at 10:40 AM.
01-15-2018, 10:31 AM
#6727
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
Originally Posted by Skid Mark
Most owe the $23k back. With the way Coast rips Envoy off on the cost per flight hour... I came in needing nothing but a multi-engine add-on and some time building. I required less than 99% of the RTP candidates, and my total cost was $24,785.00, of which Envoy only paid for $17k.
01-15-2018, 10:52 AM
#6728
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,530
Originally Posted by itsmytime
Yeah, yeah. We hear that every month. Hiring isn't slowing down, people are still choosing Envoy. Knock it all you want, but the flow is the reason. It certainly isn't pay or work rules.
01-15-2018, 02:06 PM
#6730
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
Originally Posted by Flatspot89
Reading through the pre interview paperwork. It sounds like Envoy provides a standby ticket for those coming from out of town to interview is this correct? What if I have to work the day after
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