Envoy
#6781
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
I have been hearing and reading on here the company is going to limit NHs to 30 per month or per class going forward. I guess this won’t take too long before we find out the validity of this information.
Many are guessing it’s to let the back log unclog but I think it may have more to do with the CA FO imbalance that would happen if we continue to hire 900 pilots this year. I’m guessing since we are running out of FOs to upgrade we don’t need as many FOs anymore. The 2017 NHs won’t have the 1000 hours until 2019-2020. If we hired another 900 pilots this year I’m guessing we would have more than 1500 pilots with less than a 1000 hours by the end of the year. I’m guessing we are going to be some what neutral on CA growth this year. 300-350 gone with Flow AND attrition to OAL. 2016 guys will start coming of age to be upgraded and they may account for 250-300 added to the 150 that was just forced to upgrade.
Many are guessing it’s to let the back log unclog but I think it may have more to do with the CA FO imbalance that would happen if we continue to hire 900 pilots this year. I’m guessing since we are running out of FOs to upgrade we don’t need as many FOs anymore. The 2017 NHs won’t have the 1000 hours until 2019-2020. If we hired another 900 pilots this year I’m guessing we would have more than 1500 pilots with less than a 1000 hours by the end of the year. I’m guessing we are going to be some what neutral on CA growth this year. 300-350 gone with Flow AND attrition to OAL. 2016 guys will start coming of age to be upgraded and they may account for 250-300 added to the 150 that was just forced to upgrade.
#6782
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: ACARS paper loader
Posts: 15
You'll get a schedule sometime during your INDOC and day 1 of systems.
Here's what mine looked like
7? days of INDOC [2 days off]
30 days off for home study, although my friend only had a week off. another friend had 2 weeks off. (memory items, limitations, flows. you can knock out the cbt)
3 days of emergency training
6 days off for CBT
2 weeks of systems, on day 2 you'll start IPT and CPT the final 2 days. [you'll have weekends off]
Oral
Few days off then Sim, you also get weekends off during sim.
Good luck!
#6783
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,465
It's usually Mon - Fri
You'll get a schedule sometime during your INDOC and day 1 of systems.
Here's what mine looked like
7? days of INDOC [2 days off]
30 days off for home study, although my friend only had a week off. another friend had 2 weeks off. (memory items, limitations, flows. you can knock out the cbt)
3 days of emergency training
6 days off for CBT
2 weeks of systems, on day 2 you'll start IPT and CPT the final 2 days. [you'll have weekends off]
Oral
Few days off then Sim, you also get weekends off during sim.
Good luck!
You'll get a schedule sometime during your INDOC and day 1 of systems.
Here's what mine looked like
7? days of INDOC [2 days off]
30 days off for home study, although my friend only had a week off. another friend had 2 weeks off. (memory items, limitations, flows. you can knock out the cbt)
3 days of emergency training
6 days off for CBT
2 weeks of systems, on day 2 you'll start IPT and CPT the final 2 days. [you'll have weekends off]
Oral
Few days off then Sim, you also get weekends off during sim.
Good luck!
#6784
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 50
If you want to laugh for a short bit, read this.
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.raa.or...regas.docx.pdf
#6785
#6786
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 439
If you want to laugh for a short bit, read this.
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.raa.or...regas.docx.pdf
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.raa.or...regas.docx.pdf
Mommy needs her alone time.
#6787
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
If you want to laugh for a short bit, read this.
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.raa.or...regas.docx.pdf
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.raa.or...regas.docx.pdf
#6789
So much for 900 this year. Sounds like another flow metering grievance...artificially capping classes yet still metering.
#6790
Envoy
Such a predictable move! I knew this would happen. Makes a lot of sense. Tailor hiring for company needs which is prior 121 experience for quick captain upgrades. Flood gates of NH being shut to allow for more HVA’s.
Metering flow of PP group due to CA shortages. This is cause by the company’s (renewed) goal of growth; back to 2013 levels. ALPA will have a difficult time legally fighting any grievance against a Pro Business Arbitrator Judges that will side with the company 95% of the time. They will NOT harm growth and job creation drive of any company which the President of the United States wants.
Say goodbye to hopes of getting a pay raise like Endeavor, Republic, Commutair for line pilots. That hope is now put to bed for at least few a months.
Last edited by SilentLurker; 01-18-2018 at 08:20 AM.
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