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Old 01-17-2018 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mketch11
I was trying to give them some motivation and reassurance. But your solution is to just “tell them you don’t want to upgrade”? Wonder how many guys that has worked for who didn’t want to upgrade so far...
Pretty sure you have to prove to the FAA/company that you are aren’t ready to be PIC, aka fail your training, then you have a failure on your record following you everywhere. But I’ll be sure to check the box on the next displacement that says “Not ready”
That’s fine you can do some on the job training on the left seat with paying passengers. Just let me know when you do so I can tell my family to take the next one. If he doesn’t feel ready, he needs to tell them. That’s the only way they’ll stop these force do upgrades and come up with a safer solution. I guarantee asaps will be on the rise or worse...
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Old 01-18-2018 | 03:07 AM
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I heard of someone going to the CP and saying he didn’t feel safe being a CA yet and got his CA award vacated. (Hear say information.)
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Old 01-18-2018 | 03:19 AM
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I have been hearing and reading on here the company is going to limit NHs to 30 per month or per class going forward. I guess this won’t take too long before we find out the validity of this information.

Many are guessing it’s to let the back log unclog but I think it may have more to do with the CA FO imbalance that would happen if we continue to hire 900 pilots this year. I’m guessing since we are running out of FOs to upgrade we don’t need as many FOs anymore. The 2017 NHs won’t have the 1000 hours until 2019-2020. If we hired another 900 pilots this year I’m guessing we would have more than 1500 pilots with less than a 1000 hours by the end of the year. I’m guessing we are going to be some what neutral on CA growth this year. 300-350 gone with Flow AND attrition to OAL. 2016 guys will start coming of age to be upgraded and they may account for 250-300 added to the 150 that was just forced to upgrade.
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Old 01-18-2018 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by goldenbear1
Can anyone lay out a basic training format for me? Is it only Monday through Friday or weekends as well? Are you given any time off?
It's usually Mon - Fri

You'll get a schedule sometime during your INDOC and day 1 of systems.

Here's what mine looked like

7? days of INDOC [2 days off]

30 days off for home study, although my friend only had a week off. another friend had 2 weeks off. (memory items, limitations, flows. you can knock out the cbt)

3 days of emergency training

6 days off for CBT

2 weeks of systems, on day 2 you'll start IPT and CPT the final 2 days. [you'll have weekends off]

Oral

Few days off then Sim, you also get weekends off during sim.

Good luck!
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Old 01-18-2018 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NiceToMeetU2
It's usually Mon - Fri

You'll get a schedule sometime during your INDOC and day 1 of systems.

Here's what mine looked like

7? days of INDOC [2 days off]

30 days off for home study, although my friend only had a week off. another friend had 2 weeks off. (memory items, limitations, flows. you can knock out the cbt)

3 days of emergency training

6 days off for CBT

2 weeks of systems, on day 2 you'll start IPT and CPT the final 2 days. [you'll have weekends off]

Oral

Few days off then Sim, you also get weekends off during sim.

Good luck!
Don't expect weekends off when sims are involved. If you got weekends off great but those sims run almost non-stop. I know I had one on Easter Sunday (can't remember if it was a cbt or an actual sim lesson but either way...)
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Old 01-18-2018 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by moon
They can't cry understaffed, for the metering, and then not try to staff the airline. That's some next level BS.

If you want to laugh for a short bit, read this.
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.raa.or...regas.docx.pdf
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Old 01-18-2018 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BigZ
Good point, could be
Was posted yesterday and the 145 ord/lga numbers agree, just minus the crj and some of the 175, so looks odd
That was the December class in the FB photo. They took the picture last week.
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Old 01-18-2018 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by E190 Driver
If you want to laugh for a short bit, read this.
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.raa.or...regas.docx.pdf
In summary. “This is gonna cost us some cheddar. And I might have to lay off my nanny.”

Mommy needs her alone time.
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Old 01-18-2018 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by E190 Driver
If you want to laugh for a short bit, read this.
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.raa.or...regas.docx.pdf
Haha that's funny he wrote in 2014 about how university's resquired 1500 hours when they didn't and how they should lower the time for people at those university's which they already had. The letter should have been, thanks you guys already did exactly what I want.
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Old 01-18-2018 | 06:53 AM
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Just talked to someone in the schoolhouse. Apparently it’s true they are capping the classes at 30, 12 of which have to have 950 hours 121 time so they can be upgraded quickly.
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