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Old 02-23-2018 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptJackSparrow
I wouldn't mind doing this, but I have no idea how this would work exactly. Perhaps a scenario would help paint a better picture.
So Joe is forced to upgrade on the CRJ. Before he finishes his Fed ride he can still bid back to FO. Well, Joe also has vacation. He puts his vacation on the 3rd or 4th week of the month after the bid comes out and in a time frame he may think training footprint will occur. This blocks the company from sending him to training. The first week of the month of his vacation he can rebid his vacation. While Joe is in training for CA he can PREFERENCE bid back to FO and get forced to UPGRADE again to a different equipment that he could hold. CAs in DFW and ORD that is not on a proffer to displace freeze could proffer to displace to a different jet. Pilots displaced to CAs on the CRJ/145 could bid the CRJ/145/175.

Disclaimer: don't take this as advice on how to bid. However, if you do decide to do this then talk to your union rep and ask about it first. Don't the advice of someone you don't know on an online forum.

Guys on the SAAB/ATR strung this out for over a year when the 145 was coming online and SJU was closing. Some would call out sick during training. If you missed a couple/few days of 121 training then you had to restart the whole process over again. Not sure how it works with AQP.
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Old 02-23-2018 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
So Joe is forced to upgrade on the CRJ. Before he finishes his Fed ride he can still bid back to FO. Well, Joe also has vacation. He puts his vacation on the 3rd or 4th week of the month after the bid comes out and in a time frame he may think training footprint will occur. This blocks the company from sending him to training. The first week of the month of his vacation he can rebid his vacation. While Joe is in training for CA he can PREFERENCE bid back to FO and get forced to UPGRADE again to a different equipment that he could hold. CAs in DFW and ORD that is not on a proffer to displace freeze could proffer to displace to a different jet. Pilots displaced to CAs on the CRJ/145 could bid the CRJ/145/175.

Disclaimer: don't take this as advice on how to bid. However, if you do decide to do this then talk to your union rep and ask about it first. Don't the advice of someone you don't know on an online forum.

Guys on the SAAB/ATR strung this out for over a year when the 145 was coming online and SJU was closing. Some would call out sick during training. If you missed a couple/few days of 121 training then you had to restart the whole process over again. Not sure how it works with AQP.
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Old 02-23-2018 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Fixed it.

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I just had the same thing happened sort of. I was awarded a OT trip 2 days ago (21st) but found out I was dropped from it this morning (23rd). There was no displacement code or anything, it's like I was never awarded it and I'm shown as a day off on the 27th now. I called swaps/drops and the guy said I was awarded it, but the manager reassigned it to a consolidation guy a few hours later on the 21st. Now apparently they aren't going to pay me or give the trip back. My question, who did you call/email at the union?
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Old 02-23-2018 | 09:20 AM
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When does attot open?
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Old 02-23-2018 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Fixed it.

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I just had the same thing happened sort of. I was awarded a OT trip 2 days ago (21st) but found out I was dropped from it this morning (23rd). There was no displacement code or anything, it's like I was never awarded it and I'm shown as a day off on the 27th now. I called swaps/drops and the guy said I was awarded it, but the manager reassigned it to a consolidation guy a few hours later on the 21st. Now apparently they aren't going to pay me or give the trip back. My question, who did you call/email at the union?
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Old 02-23-2018 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Smutter
When does attot open?
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Old 02-23-2018 | 09:28 AM
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That's what I thought everything is locked. Nevermind I am a dumbass
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Old 02-23-2018 | 09:28 AM
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[QUOTE=havick206;2534800]Fixed it

I just had the same thing happened sort of. I was awarded a OT trip 2 days ago (21st) but found out I was dropped from it this morning (23rd). There was no displacement code or anything, it's like I was never awarded it and I'm shown as a day off on the 27th now. I called swaps/drops and the guy said I was awarded it, but the manager reassigned it to a consolidation guy a few hours later on the 21st. Now apparently they aren't going to pay me or give the trip back. My question, who did you call/email at the union?
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Old 02-23-2018 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
So Joe is forced to upgrade on the CRJ. Before he finishes his Fed ride he can still bid back to FO. Well, Joe also has vacation. He puts his vacation on the 3rd or 4th week of the month after the bid comes out and in a time frame he may think training footprint will occur. This blocks the company from sending him to training. The first week of the month of his vacation he can rebid his vacation. While Joe is in training for CA he can PREFERENCE bid back to FO and get forced to UPGRADE again to a different equipment that he could hold. CAs in DFW and ORD that is not on a proffer to displace freeze could proffer to displace to a different jet. Pilots displaced to CAs on the CRJ/145 could bid the CRJ/145/175.

Ok, I got ya, makes complete sense and seems like a reasonable idea. Plus you could get a free type rating out of it. However, this seems like it would work for either commuters or guys that live in DFW/ORD. Tell me if I'm wrong but guys that live in LGA or MIA it sounds like would be at a disadvantage doing this in the event the company decides to cease the forced upgrades and in that chance they did could get stuck commuting for awhile.
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Old 02-23-2018 | 10:36 AM
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Is it possible to trade trips out of base during the 24 hour ATTOT window?
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