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02-26-2018, 10:01 AM

#7321

moon

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Originally Posted by flyertalk

In all fairness my question was how soon could one expect a class date after interviewing. Just my second question was about the fact it doesn't seem people with the experience are given an option. Also, I haven't said how long I have been away from 121 or what I have done in the meantime. I was simply trying to figure out how backlogged training may be. If I have to wait until June or July for a class date then I would target other companies. I am not targeting Envoy for the hopes of becoming an immediate captain. I don't disagree, though, someone who hasn't flown for a while shouldn't upgrade walking in the door, they should have some time on the line to refresh their experience.

Understood, I wasn't directing the concern towards you, just people who have been away from the industry in general. Also, yeah don't know the answer to your question unfortunately. Just wish Envoy wouldn't have taken the steps they did. It has removed safety margins that they used to have. We used to require a minimum amount of time flown on property.

02-26-2018, 11:09 AM

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kevair464

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So I worked for American Eagle, back in 2007, ended up leaving the industry entirely for a number of years until I got back into flying Part 135 a couple years ago part time.

I've gotten to the point where I want to go back to flying full time, and am interested how things are at the modern Envoy vs. the old Eagle of 2007, as in QoL, Reserve, Upgrades etc.

I live just outside Chicago, so Envoy is an obvious choice for home basing, but having worked at Eagle, I'm also considering Republic, or staying 135/91 if my current employer can offer full time, flying a Lear 35 currently

just over 3000 total, some 121 time, jet time, some jet pic, masters degree.

Any help appreciated as to directional opinions, thoughts, comments, been out of the regional world for 10 years

02-26-2018, 11:37 AM

#7323

Sheg0theD

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Originally Posted by kevair464

You will be LGa based initially and will instantly upgrade on the 145. To answer how long it will take to get back to Chicago, I would guess a few months nothing crazy. I wouldn’t be surprised to see you get it even before you finish training assuming it’s offered. So many variables and no body really knows what’s going on right now. If you wanted to be ORD based you could probably hold CRJ captain instantly if you wanted.

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02-26-2018, 03:28 PM

#7324

NeverFastEnough

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Originally Posted by havick206

Isn’t there a way of finding out the consolidation deadline of reserve FO’s? It used to be shown on the reserve list but it’s been removed. So it’s near impossible to tell if an OT sequence has been illegally awarded (ie the FO has the sequence awarded in advance but isn’t within 30 days of their consolidation deadline).

**edit: disregard answered my own question. CCI shows is but QuickTrade doesn’t

QuickTrade shows it. I see every FO’s consolidation date. It’s on the right side.

02-26-2018, 04:08 PM

#7325

flysooner9

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Quote:

Originally Posted by moon

THIS is what frightens me about the whole thing. Not directed towards the poster but the Envoy process as a whole. If someone has been away from the industry for a while there are things that are going to lapse and they should have at least a little time in the right seat to regain those skills and thought processes before jumping straight into a captain seat. Just because it is legal doesn't mean it is safe.

Well granted they’d still have to complete IOE. Now whether that’s enough time to get back in the flow of 121 or not I don’t know.

02-26-2018, 07:29 PM

#7326

Livingtofly89

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flyertalk

Does anyone know how long it takes from interview (given one receives a CJO) to class date? I have heard of some backlog. Also, I am returning to the 121 world. I am assuming I should expect LGA 145 CA rather quickly with the "forced" upgrade?

I interviewed end of January and I’m in the March 12th class. Hope this helps!

02-27-2018, 01:33 AM

#7327

yeahbutstill

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They took away the first day and half of my first sequence in March to give it to IOE guy. Do I need to do anything yo make sure I still get paid for those hours?

02-27-2018, 02:56 AM

#7328

Seaplane

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yeahbutstill

They took away the first day and half of my first sequence in March to give it to IOE guy. Do I need to do anything yo make sure I still get paid for those hours?

No. Will be coded as DP in your HI1. Then you will be paid for it. You can be reassigned until noon the day prior. But with the amount of FOs you probably won’t be.

02-27-2018, 02:56 AM

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copycopy

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Originally Posted by yeahbutstill

They took away the first day and half of my first sequence in March to give it to IOE guy. Do I need to do anything yo make sure I still get paid for those hours?

No, you are pay protected. However,
you are subject to reassignment up until noon the day prior of removed flying.

02-27-2018, 04:10 AM

#7330

highfarfast

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seaplane

No. Will be coded as DP in your HI1. Then you will be paid for it. You can be reassigned until noon the day prior. But with the amount of FOs you probably won’t be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by copycopy

No, you are pay protected. However,
you are subject to reassignment up until noon the day prior of removed flying.

Really needs to be said that he can be reasigned up to noon the day prior to EACH DAY of the removed flying. Being displaced is kinda similar to a long call reserve. Check your schedule and take a screen shot each day at noon prior to each day you were originally scheduled to fly.