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#7214
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 50
Screen shot and email it to yourself or if using QuickTrade then it sends you a sent receipt for all the RF messages.
Same same for the denial HI6 messages that comes days after they should. Then take a screen shot of the date and time and who the actual sequence was awarded to.
I’ll probably have about 6-7 decent cases for grievance by the end of next month now that I’m keeping track of it properly.
I have problems with the fact that they are awarding trips to reserve guys for consolidation, or full trips disappearing in the 0400-10am next day window. What irks me is that they sit on your partial RF request for days and then subsequently award it to someone needing consolidation, or someone else then picks up the full trip when they should have already broken up the trip by that point.
Same same for the denial HI6 messages that comes days after they should. Then take a screen shot of the date and time and who the actual sequence was awarded to.
I’ll probably have about 6-7 decent cases for grievance by the end of next month now that I’m keeping track of it properly.
I have problems with the fact that they are awarding trips to reserve guys for consolidation, or full trips disappearing in the 0400-10am next day window. What irks me is that they sit on your partial RF request for days and then subsequently award it to someone needing consolidation, or someone else then picks up the full trip when they should have already broken up the trip by that point.
N3D/BASE/EQP/SEAT/DATE (ex. N3D/LGA/EMJ/FO/18) shows the seq data (ie. who it was awarded to, time is was awarded, and reason code, etc.)
N3D/LGA/EMJ/FO/18«
LGAEMJ F/O OPEN SEQUENCES 18FEB AS OF xxxx xxFEB
SEQ TIME ORIG TERM DSP AWARDED EMP NOTIFIED RN
06605 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1926/17 SB
06606 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1935/17 SB
06610 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1937/17 SB
06610 00.00 0700 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0305/18 SB
06558 07.43 0800 1233/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0931/15 DP
06561 24.58 0955 1518/23 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1130/15 IE
24251 14.12 1050 0726/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0814/12 LT
06607 00.00 1100 1900/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1936/17 SB
06643 00.00 1300 2100/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0937/18 SB
24143 11.43 1311 2129/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0744/08 LT
24143 08.08 1311 1520/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0908/16 OT
24143 08.08 1311 1520/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0921/16 LT
24202 14.18 1346 2026/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1354/23 OO
06611 00.00 1400 2200/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1938/17 SB
06608 00.00 1500 2300/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1936/17 SB
06609 00.00 1500 2300/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1937/17 SB
24146 12.38 1545 2057/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1617/23 OO
06641 13.03 1649 2129/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1103/18 RF
06640 02.29 1729 1020/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0932/18 RF
*bold redacted for security
in this example the far right column is the one you are looking for
SB = Stand By Shift
DP = Displaced for IOE
IE = New Hire IOE
LT = Low Time seq given to meet consolidation
OT = OverTime
OO = TripTrade
RF = Reserve Flying (RAP given an assigment, could've profferred for it or called out on same day)
Also if you know the original seq# you can type 24/SEQ#/DDMMM, this will help you find the flights you wanted as CS will not always keep the same seq and just tack it onto the original sequence of the crewmemeber
While I agree screenshots are a great way to keep data, this is pulled directly from DECS and "sometimes" (put your tinfoil hat on) data disappears.
#7215
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 50
Sorry I meant to say I don't have problems with them awarding trips legally as per the contract. It's just when they sit on your partial request RF and then the trip disappears after the window after they should have executed the partial request, then you subsequently get the denial message that the trip is no longer available.
I also know that some trips aren't even appearing on the OT board at all, they're bypassing that and awarding trips to reserve pilots well in advance without even giving a line holder an opportunity to pick it up should they wish to.
I also know that some trips aren't even appearing on the OT board at all, they're bypassing that and awarding trips to reserve pilots well in advance without even giving a line holder an opportunity to pick it up should they wish to.
#7216
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
N3D/BASE/EQP/SEAT/DATE (ex. N3D/LGA/EMJ/FO/18) shows the seq data (ie. who it was awarded to, time is was awarded, and reason code, etc.)
N3D/LGA/EMJ/FO/18«
LGAEMJ F/O OPEN SEQUENCES 18FEB AS OF xxxx xxFEB
SEQ TIME ORIG TERM DSP AWARDED EMP NOTIFIED RN
06605 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1926/17 SB
06606 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1935/17 SB
06610 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1937/17 SB
06610 00.00 0700 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0305/18 SB
06558 07.43 0800 1233/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0931/15 DP
06561 24.58 0955 1518/23 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1130/15 IE
24251 14.12 1050 0726/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0814/12 LT
06607 00.00 1100 1900/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1936/17 SB
06643 00.00 1300 2100/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0937/18 SB
24143 11.43 1311 2129/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0744/08 LT
24143 08.08 1311 1520/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0908/16 OT
24143 08.08 1311 1520/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0921/16 LT
24202 14.18 1346 2026/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1354/23 OO
06611 00.00 1400 2200/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1938/17 SB
06608 00.00 1500 2300/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1936/17 SB
06609 00.00 1500 2300/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1937/17 SB
24146 12.38 1545 2057/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1617/23 OO
06641 13.03 1649 2129/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1103/18 RF
06640 02.29 1729 1020/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0932/18 RF
*bold redacted for security
in this example the far right column is the one you are looking for
SB = Stand By Shift
DP = Displaced for IOE
IE = New Hire IOE
LT = Low Time seq given to meet consolidation
OT = OverTime
OO = TripTrade
RF = Reserve Flying (RAP given an assigment, could've profferred for it or called out on same day)
Also if you know the original seq# you can type 24/SEQ#/DDMMM, this will help you find the flights you wanted as CS will not always keep the same seq and just tack it onto the original sequence of the crewmemeber
While I agree screenshots are a great way to keep data, this is pulled directly from DECS and "sometimes" (put your tinfoil hat on) data disappears.
N3D/LGA/EMJ/FO/18«
LGAEMJ F/O OPEN SEQUENCES 18FEB AS OF xxxx xxFEB
SEQ TIME ORIG TERM DSP AWARDED EMP NOTIFIED RN
06605 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1926/17 SB
06606 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1935/17 SB
06610 00.00 0600 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1937/17 SB
06610 00.00 0700 1400/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0305/18 SB
06558 07.43 0800 1233/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0931/15 DP
06561 24.58 0955 1518/23 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1130/15 IE
24251 14.12 1050 0726/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0814/12 LT
06607 00.00 1100 1900/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1936/17 SB
06643 00.00 1300 2100/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0937/18 SB
24143 11.43 1311 2129/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0744/08 LT
24143 08.08 1311 1520/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0908/16 OT
24143 08.08 1311 1520/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0921/16 LT
24202 14.18 1346 2026/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1354/23 OO
06611 00.00 1400 2200/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1938/17 SB
06608 00.00 1500 2300/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1936/17 SB
06609 00.00 1500 2300/18 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1937/17 SB
24146 12.38 1545 2057/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1617/23 OO
06641 13.03 1649 2129/20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1103/18 RF
06640 02.29 1729 1020/19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 0932/18 RF
*bold redacted for security
in this example the far right column is the one you are looking for
SB = Stand By Shift
DP = Displaced for IOE
IE = New Hire IOE
LT = Low Time seq given to meet consolidation
OT = OverTime
OO = TripTrade
RF = Reserve Flying (RAP given an assigment, could've profferred for it or called out on same day)
Also if you know the original seq# you can type 24/SEQ#/DDMMM, this will help you find the flights you wanted as CS will not always keep the same seq and just tack it onto the original sequence of the crewmemeber
While I agree screenshots are a great way to keep data, this is pulled directly from DECS and "sometimes" (put your tinfoil hat on) data disappears.
Last edited by havick206; 02-19-2018 at 09:21 AM.
#7219
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 128
#7220
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2017
Posts: 24
Monthly Bid Results?
How soon is the monthly Bid Result posted after closing?
Also, is there any way to request or be available for flying/reserve in other domiciles (TDY) if the base/seat/equipment was not offered on any of the HI6's that announce TDY?
Also, is there any way to request or be available for flying/reserve in other domiciles (TDY) if the base/seat/equipment was not offered on any of the HI6's that announce TDY?
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