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Old 05-18-2018 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Tellheritwasntu
Can someone explain both the vacation slide and the DTS function on autobid?
Selecting slide allows CS to 'slide' your vacation 3 days later or 3 days earlier to reduce conflict with the bid you're awarded.

DTS (drop trip sequence) drops the full trip if the trip overlaps your vacation days in any way. You will not be paid for the flights dropped outside of your vacation days though.
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Old 05-18-2018 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Tellheritwasntu
Can someone explain both the vacation slide and the DTS function on autobid?
DTS is what you would use if you intentionally wanted to create a conflict for your vacation and not want CS to fix it for you, essentially getting you extra "unpaid" vacation days.

If you want to still get paid for the conflict trips, you would choose slide and CS would move your vacation around to make it not conflict, meaning you would fly your schedule and get paid for it.

Just depends on whether you want more money or more time off. Most people I have spoken to about it seem to like the DTS option, as it gives more days off and allows you to pick up OT flights while on vacation should you choose.
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Old 05-18-2018 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tellheritwasntu
Can someone explain both the vacation slide and the DTS function on autobid?
Couple things to add. DTS can only be used by line holders.

Vacation slide is limited to one day for reserve pilots if it leaves you with one reserve day between day off and vacation. So if you had three days off then one day reserve and then vacation then you could slide it next to the days off.

Also feel free to call your rep to explain it better. I had a rep explain it pretty good last year.
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Old 05-18-2018 | 01:37 PM
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While we're on DTS, I had a captain tell me a while back that you can request to have your sick time used to cover the DTS days that are not during your vacation days.

1) Is this true?

2) If true, how do you go about it?

Got vacation coming up for the first time.
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Old 05-18-2018 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
While we're on DTS, I had a captain tell me a while back that you can request to have your sick time used to cover the DTS days that are not during your vacation days.

1) Is this true?

2) If true, how do you go about it?

Got vacation coming up for the first time.
Believe it or not, it's true. Unless within the last 12 months or so they decided you can't. Email your pay comp auditor.
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Old 05-18-2018 | 04:44 PM
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I have a question on a kind of confusing IOE displacement...

I am ORD based (but live in DFW), and successfully traded a 2-day in ORD, for a 2-day in DFW (same days). Yesterday, I added a turn to the end of my DFW 2 day for 150%.

This afternoon, I was notified that I was displaced from my DFW 2-day (+OT) for IOE.

My questions are as follows:

1. Do I have any 'right' that when they add flying back to my schedule that it has to be in DFW, despite being ORD based? 11.E.1.j seems to indicate that they need to start me in DFW.

2. How do i make sure that I am pay protected for the OT?

3. If I were to decide to not be pay protected to the OT, does that mean I am only good on the last day till my original end time +3 hours?

Thanks for the guidance!
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Old 05-18-2018 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
I have a question on a kind of confusing IOE displacement...

I am ORD based (but live in DFW), and successfully traded a 2-day in ORD, for a 2-day in DFW (same days). Yesterday, I added a turn to the end of my DFW 2 day for 150%.

This afternoon, I was notified that I was displaced from my DFW 2-day (+OT) for IOE.

My questions are as follows:

1. Do I have any 'right' that when they add flying back to my schedule that it has to be in DFW, despite being ORD based? 11.E.1.j seems to indicate that they need to start me in DFW.

2. How do i make sure that I am pay protected for the OT?

3. If I were to decide to not be pay protected to the OT, does that mean I am only good on the last day till my original end time +3 hours?

Thanks for the guidance!
There’s an LOA 16-01 that covers lost flying and how to deal with pay protection for OT rates. There’s a bunch of stuff you have to do in order to keep the 150% otherwise it’s straight pay. It’s all in the loa.
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Old 05-18-2018 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
I have a question on a kind of confusing IOE displacement...

I am ORD based (but live in DFW), and successfully traded a 2-day in ORD, for a 2-day in DFW (same days). Yesterday, I added a turn to the end of my DFW 2 day for 150%.

This afternoon, I was notified that I was displaced from my DFW 2-day (+OT) for IOE.

My questions are as follows:

1. Do I have any 'right' that when they add flying back to my schedule that it has to be in DFW, despite being ORD based? 11.E.1.j seems to indicate that they need to start me in DFW.

2. How do i make sure that I am pay protected for the OT?

3. If I were to decide to not be pay protected to the OT, does that mean I am only good on the last day till my original end time +3 hours?

Thanks for the guidance!
Assuming you are an FO there is almost zero chance they will reassign you flying...
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Old 05-19-2018 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
I have a question on a kind of confusing IOE displacement...

I am ORD based (but live in DFW), and successfully traded a 2-day in ORD, for a 2-day in DFW (same days). Yesterday, I added a turn to the end of my DFW 2 day for 150%.

This afternoon, I was notified that I was displaced from my DFW 2-day (+OT) for IOE.

My questions are as follows:

1. Do I have any 'right' that when they add flying back to my schedule that it has to be in DFW, despite being ORD based? 11.E.1.j seems to indicate that they need to start me in DFW.

2. How do i make sure that I am pay protected for the OT?

3. If I were to decide to not be pay protected to the OT, does that mean I am only good on the last day till my original end time +3 hours?

Thanks for the guidance!
Wow. Really good questions.

These are the type of questions I'd email to the union for guidance. I wouldn't trust a single bit of information that came out from this forum with these difficult nonstandard questions.
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Old 05-19-2018 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
I have a question on a kind of confusing IOE displacement...

I am ORD based (but live in DFW), and successfully traded a 2-day in ORD, for a 2-day in DFW (same days). Yesterday, I added a turn to the end of my DFW 2 day for 150%.

This afternoon, I was notified that I was displaced from my DFW 2-day (+OT) for IOE.

My questions are as follows:

1. Do I have any 'right' that when they add flying back to my schedule that it has to be in DFW, despite being ORD based? 11.E.1.j seems to indicate that they need to start me in DFW.

2. How do i make sure that I am pay protected for the OT?

3. If I were to decide to not be pay protected to the OT, does that mean I am only good on the last day till my original end time +3 hours?

Thanks for the guidance!
These are definitely read the contract and ask the union reps type questions but will add something from personal experience that’s similar to one of the questions. I was doing TDY in LGA last fall but DFW based. I was displaced from a trip that started in my TDY month from LGA but continued three days into my non-TDY month where DFW based and on reserve.

First day of the trip, no reasignment. Second day of the trip (and now in new contractual month), no reasignement at the noon prior day point but later in the day I opened quicktrade to look for OT opportunites and noticed I had been tagged with a RAP 2 in DFW for that second day. Knowing that was innappropriate, I called CS and complained and was given the day off (I’m pretty sure it was not intentional, just a mistake with the transition). Third and fourth day, I was reasigned a two day LGA trip but started and finished with a deadhead from/to DFW. Pretty sure that was innapriate too under the deadhead rules of the time but I didn’t complain with that one, lol.

These odd situations can trip up CS too so just know the contract and be ready to reference the appropriate sections when needed and sometimes their mistakes will benefit you. ;-)
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