Are you sure about that? I was under the impression it's airframes. I'm not sure how the at risk flying fits into that either

 

I don't think it's airframes, because I had done the math on the OO + EV + 9E 200s at one point, and it came up with more than 125. I had always heard it was lines of flying, but it might be airframes, and the OO EAS/At Risk messes with the numbers.

 

It is based on airframes (and block hours). But they have some mechanism where they can trade 50 seater for 71-76 seaters. The eventual bottom is 125 50 seater.

I believe they are in that trade right now and will eventually limited by 125. So they are not parking 50 deters out of the goodness of their hearts.

Also EAS is included. It doesn't matter if it at risk or not. If it operates under a DL flight number it is included.

 

Thanks for the explanation. That's what I was thinking it was

 

Delta peaked at 680 airframes at DCI. That number will be down to 450 and probably closer to 400 by 2019. Those 230 to 280 airframes have gone back to the mainline via the 717 and soon the CS100. That is the reason Delta has hired 4000 pilots with very little overall growth. The flying has moved from DCI to the mainline.

 

And if you do the math on ASM provided by DCI, the total number is about the same. Just with a larger share of 71-76 seater hence fewer total airframes.

DL is responding to customer demand by offering a higher quality experience with multi-class aircraft and high reliability standards. So they negotiated a scope mechanism that would allow just that (introduce C-Series and trade 50 for 76 seater).

The side effect is fewer DCI aircraft - and fewer pilots at regionals and more at mainline. Believe me, I hope that trend will continue.

But they don't do that for charity but for cold and hard business reasons. I guess, it would have been better to phrase it as "no mainline carrier will have less capacity than what is permissible under scope agreements with regionals."

I bet DL will take up every inch of scope that they have available once it is all set and done, because DCI is still a lot cheaper.

 

Wow, very bold prediction. You got the Powerball numbers there guy?

 

Obviously we don't need your money. When will you start boycotting your own carrier AA? If you don't, you're a hypocrite of epic proportions.

Spare me the faux outrage. As CBreezy rightfully pointed out, everyone has been preaching and praying for the demise of the regionals but when it actually starts happening then everyone gets ****ed off. Unbelievable.

Bottom line is, as far as we know right now, Expressjet won't be down too many airframes overall. Natural attrition will take care of any overstaffing created by this change.


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Ya, but its way they did. We're too expensive. Fine, just say that. But don't send one of your top performers to the worst airport in the country (probably the world) and tell them they're fired because their performance sucks.

 

ASM's at the DCI carriers are down from 6.5 million in 2012 to 5.6 million at the end of 2016. The increase in average size mitigated the drop but ASM's at DCI have seen a significant reduction. Let's hope that trend accelerates when the CS100's start arriving.