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jcountry 04-22-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 2577748)
Flight attendants are being offered retirement packages as we speak. I personally know several guys and gals retiring by June 1st. Not sure of other groups though. Haven’t heard.

I too don’t understand this. Guess they aren’t quitting as fast as the pilots.

It’s strange.

WH would the company care to get rid of ones at the top end? They can furlough for free.

I wonder if skyw is looking to sell the certificate or some such-and trying to make the work group which would come with it cheaper. Only explanation I can come up with.

PhantomHawk 04-22-2018 09:37 AM

Perhaps there is a merger in the works, and that work group isn’t coming with it. Just another rumor I’ve heard on the line, but rumors are a dime a dozen and RARELY have truth behind them.

jcountry 04-22-2018 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2577813)
Perhaps there is a merger in the works, and that work group isn’t coming with it. Just another rumor I’ve heard on the line, but rumors are a dime a dozen and RARELY have truth behind them.

Even so.....

Early retirements and buyouts aren’t cheap.

I know they aren’t doing this pit of the kindness of their hearts.
(We’ve seen exactly how kind their hearts are.)

Fr8Thrust 04-22-2018 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 2577748)
Flight attendants are being offered retirement packages as we speak. I personally know several guys and gals retiring by June 1st. Not sure of other groups though. Haven’t heard.

If they’re eligible to retire, do they keep DL travel?

JuniorFO 04-22-2018 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2577669)
I have heard that some employee groups are getting early retirement buyouts....

Is that true?

And if so-why? Why would the company want to reduce cost structure if they shut down soon?

Because they aren't shutting down. People who believe XJT is shutting down are completely misinformed.

afterburn81 04-22-2018 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 2577914)
Because they aren't shutting down. People who believe XJT is shutting down are completely misinformed.

Yes, but one can see how it is reasonable to assume, when company X is spending money to shrink their employee group and company Y is spending money to recruit and grow, a certain outcome is pretty easy to deduce.

DirkDiggler 04-22-2018 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 2577914)
Because they aren't shutting down. People who believe XJT is shutting down are completely misinformed.

Care to inform us?

Blackhawk 04-23-2018 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2577684)
A professional does their job to a certain standard, regardless of their emotional response to how screwed it seems we are. Or.....these people should leave. Compromising safety because you’re butt-hurt about working on the Titanic is really stupid. That path leads to an eventual loss of career or even lives.

I agree. Part of being a professional is doing things right all the time even in the face of adversity, not just when it suits you. The aviation world is strewn with wreckage and dead bodies caused by pilots who were too cool to comply with procedures and checklists. I'll fly and dress the way the company wants me to until the last day.

da42pilot 04-25-2018 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 2577748)
Flight attendants are being offered retirement packages as we speak. I personally know several guys and gals retiring by June 1st. Not sure of other groups though. Haven’t heard.

I too don’t understand this. Guess they aren’t quitting as fast as the pilots.

The flight attendants didn’t get an integrated seniority list with the ERJ side, that’s why.

da42pilot 04-25-2018 07:22 AM

Supposedly the training department was instructed to create a transition course ERJ -> CRJ. That’s right, that’s not backwards. Heard recently from someone at AQP ground school.....


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