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Blackhawk 04-11-2018 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by SkipperBaloo (Post 2569431)
Or rent a car

One way rental car was over $350 plus gas and tolls. Much more expensive than nonreving to Paris. I looked into it.
This way I got to have a couple glasses of wine in business class, wake up in Paris. Look around. Have a couple glasses of wine in business class, wake up home.

Excargodog 04-21-2018 06:57 AM

Got nothing to say about Expressjet one way or another. Just wanted to get that grammatically incorrect broken (or removed) link superseded on the Regional page.

calmwinds 04-21-2018 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2577059)
Got nothing to say about Expressjet one way or another. Just wanted to get that grammatically incorrect broken (or removed) link superseded on the Regional page.

You are the first person to comment on the Xjet forum in 10 days. You can tell a dying regional when no one asks any questions about it, no one complains about it, no one cares about it enough to even make a stupid comment.

DirkDiggler 04-21-2018 09:29 AM

I’d say morale here is probably at the lowest I’ve seen yet. I came back from 2 months off and it’s really almost to the point where it could be dangerous. Hate to say it because I’m guilty too.

PhantomHawk 04-21-2018 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2577116)
You are the first person to comment on the Xjet forum in 10 days. You can tell a dying regional when no one asks any questions about it, no one complains about it, no one cares about it enough to even make a stupid comment.

Your airline had one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel before you even worked there yet. Things change in this industry. We were all convinced that Mesa was DONE about 5 years ago. Same with Air Wisconsin just ONE year ago. I’m not saying XJT has a bright future, or even ANY future, but forum activity is certainly not the determining factor. This place is circling the drain, but it’s not gone yet.

Puck Hawg 04-21-2018 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2577183)
I’d say morale here is probably at the lowest I’ve seen yet. I came back from 2 months off and it’s really almost to the point where it could be dangerous. Hate to say it because I’m guilty too.

That’s a pretty dumb statement. Just because I’m aggravated with the company doesn’t mean I’m going to endanger anyone’s life. If anything, it makes it safer....ya know, flying fuel efficient and making sure you block out ten early, 14 late just to help the company keep up with performance numbers.....

DirkDiggler 04-21-2018 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Puck Hawg (Post 2577452)
That’s a pretty dumb statement. Just because I’m aggravated with the company doesn’t mean I’m going to endanger anyone’s life. If anything, it makes it safer....ya know, flying fuel efficient and making sure you block out ten early, 14 late just to help the company keep up with performance numbers.....

I agree. But it doesn't mean it's not going on. And they say checklist noncompliance is basically at an all time high. When morale is low, pilots tend to drift from standards. Doesn't have to be all in flight. Sloppy uniforms, showing up late, lav overflowing (who cares go anyway), mx things that are overlooked to get to the hotel quicker, the list goes on.

jcountry 04-22-2018 05:48 AM

I have heard that some employee groups are getting early retirement buyouts....

Is that true?

And if so-why? Why would the company want to reduce cost structure if they shut down soon?

PhantomHawk 04-22-2018 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2577555)
I agree. But it doesn't mean it's not going on. And they say checklist noncompliance is basically at an all time high. When morale is low, pilots tend to drift from standards. Doesn't have to be all in flight. Sloppy uniforms, showing up late, lav overflowing (who cares go anyway), mx things that are overlooked to get to the hotel quicker, the list goes on.

A professional does their job to a certain standard, regardless of their emotional response to how screwed it seems we are. Or.....these people should leave. Compromising safety because you’re butt-hurt about working on the Titanic is really stupid. That path leads to an eventual loss of career or even lives.

afterburn81 04-22-2018 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2577669)
I have heard that some employee groups are getting early retirement buyouts....

Is that true?

And if so-why? Why would the company want to reduce cost structure if they shut down soon?

Flight attendants are being offered retirement packages as we speak. I personally know several guys and gals retiring by June 1st. Not sure of other groups though. Haven’t heard.

I too don’t understand this. Guess they aren’t quitting as fast as the pilots.


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