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McNugent 04-27-2018 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 2581205)
Those plane will be placed with SKY mark my words and I did cross the t's and dot my i's Terry!

I’m constantly blown away at all the former ASA planes flying around the SKYW system. I saw 4 of them in one shot sitting in Denver yesterday. Sad.

jcountry 04-27-2018 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2581243)
Does the company have to pay unemployment to those furloughed
employees?

I don’t think so.

I think they pay unemployment taxes (insurance) for everyone through the years, but I don’t think they pay extra if furloughs happen.

hawk21 05-01-2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 2581205)
Those plane will be placed with SKY mark my words and I did cross the t's and dot my i's Terry!

They're showing up on our flow boards in maintenance.

unit monster 05-01-2018 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2581405)
I don’t think so.

I think they pay unemployment taxes (insurance) for everyone through the years, but I don’t think they pay extra if furloughs happen.

They pay a pre determined rate based on successful unemployment claims, the higher the ratio of claims to active employees the higher the unemployment insurance taxes they pay. So no, they don't pay directly, but unemployment taxes will increase.

Didn't they come out and say they will not dispute any unemployment claims? If the company plans to be around for any reasonable amount of time this makes zero business sense.

jcountry 05-02-2018 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by unit monster (Post 2584264)
They pay a pre determined rate based on successful unemployment claims, the higher the ratio of claims to active employees the higher the unemployment insurance taxes they pay. So no, they don't pay directly, but unemployment taxes will increase.

Didn't they come out and say they will not dispute any unemployment claims? If the company plans to be around for any reasonable amount of time this makes zero business sense.

I guess they can always be bankrupted-and they wouldn’t need to dispute anything.

Still hard to figure why they would pay any kind of severance if they just plan to bankrupt or liquidate

DirkDiggler 05-02-2018 05:54 PM

Does anyone have a verifiable person that actually received a severance package? It’s one thing to not dispute unemployment... but with an airline that gives $8 turkey vouchers as a holiday bonus, I am highly doubtful anyone received a severance package. Let’s be realistic here. Names/titles or it didn’t happen.

jcountry 05-02-2018 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2585100)
Does anyone have a verifiable person that actually received a severance package? It’s one thing to not dispute unemployment... but with an airline that gives $8 turkey vouchers as a holiday bonus, I am highly doubtful anyone received a severance package. Let’s be realistic here. Names/titles or it didn’t happen.

Early retirement.

(I’d consider that a severance package.)

DirkDiggler 05-02-2018 07:03 PM

What do you mean? You could retire whenever you want. Maybe another thing to retain travel benefits as a “retiree.” Penalty free 401k distributions start at 59-1/2. Allowing someone to retire is no big perk. If you’re financially set you can retire tomorrow. I’m talking severance, someone getting a fat check. That’s the only thing that matters and it probably hasn’t happened.

PhantomHawk 05-02-2018 07:48 PM

FAs are being offered some sort of pittance for early retirement. It’s like 2 months pay or something like that.

bamike 05-03-2018 09:03 AM

Federal WARN Act
 
If a company is conducting a mass layoff they have to give at least 60 days notice to employees affected, unless it's a liquidation or other urgent situation. Also, some states require that the state be notified of the mass layoff. Giving people severance is so they don't sue the company; as part of severance the employee usually signs a document waiving their rights to sue. Severance is not required by law in most states.

You can go to this website to see which employers in Georgia are conducting layoffs that require notice: WARN Website Data Listings - Georgia Department of Economic Development

I don't see Expressjet anywhere on there, which probably means that as of now there is no announced plan for widespread layoffs or shutdown of the business. The people who are being terminated are probably part of a smaller number of layoffs that doesn't trigger the thresholds for Federal WARN Act reporting.


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