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05-22-2018 | 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Itsajob

I don’t think that United wants a bunch of tired 50 seat jets. They’re simply stuck with them because they’re maxed out on scope. The Max starts operating in 2 weeks. They’re 161 on the way and each one can replace the available seats of 3.5 rj’s. The pilots can be had for the cost of an interview. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

Depends on the operating cost versus revenue on each leg. There are two methods, cost per available seat mile (CASM)/RASM, and cost/leg. If the former were always best you would have 777's operating on every leg, but it's not. A 777 with 40 seats filled will lose money while an ERJ with 40 seats filled will probably make money. Same with smaller airplanes. At a certain point, it does make sense to go with the bigger airplane- that's why DAL regularly flys 777s between ATL-ORF (or used to). But sometimes it makes sense to go with a smaller airplane. Of course, oil costs will play a factor. Only 5 years ago the 50 seats were dead, now they are coming out of the desert as fast as they can be manned. End of the year? Who knows.

05-22-2018 | 03:24 PM

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Cool yo. Is it a good thing or bad thing or neutral thing?

Probably a neutral thing. Definitely not bad. It is less likely 145’s are going away since United owns them. United will have to sit a paid off asset and that is hard to do if you can staff them. (Just look at American’s history with its paid off MD80’s).

I believe good things are coming for XJT pilots flying for United Express. United has heated up hiring and United is running new hire classes this summer for the first time in years. Summer is a time when they would prefer the instructors fly the line. Anyway, more new United hires means more pilots through CPP.

05-22-2018 | 03:50 PM

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With 23 going in June, it's probably 60+ pilots moving on to United from now through October based on the current class dates. It'll be nice to see some movement, but placing those CRJs will be essential or we will be right back where we are now with stagnation.

05-22-2018 | 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Arliss

Cool yo. Is it a good thing or bad thing or neutral thing?

It’s a bad thing to have no assets, just as it would be for individuals that desire a future !!!
A company with no assets or profits is not a company I would consider to have a stable future !
It’s simple Econ 101 folks.

05-22-2018 | 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PontiusPilot

They’ll place those aircraft alright, . . .
With the non union, cost efficient side

Exjet will always be too expensive and never be profitable.
Wishing for a positive outcome is foolish.
Vote with your feet girls and boys !!!

05-22-2018 | 05:59 PM

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They’ll place those aircraft alright, . . .
With the non union, cost efficient side

Exjet will always be too expensive and never be profitable.
Wishing for a positive outcome is foolish.
Vote with your feet girls and boys !!!

I tend to agree. I think the CRJ’s are already placed with SKW on the American side. No need to paint them.

05-22-2018 | 06:26 PM

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I tend to agree. I think the CRJ’s are already placed with SKW on the American side. No need to paint them.

I think the next few weeks will be key. If there’s no announcement about CRJs being placed with UAL then we know we are being strung along.

05-22-2018 | 07:07 PM

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I think the next few weeks will be key. If there’s no announcement about CRJs being placed with UAL then we know we are being strung along.

DL ASA aircraft are already on OO opspecs and at ROW to get painted in AA colors....

05-23-2018 | 04:57 AM

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DL ASA aircraft are already on OO opspecs and at ROW to get painted in AA colors....

I brought them 2 last month. I just thought they were getting painted. Until the SKW rep came up and said "We'll take it from here boys". Didn't say a single word after that. Definitely a sign of things to come. Wouldn't hold my breath on anything at XJT.

05-23-2018 | 06:32 AM

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There are too many false hopes on this board. Let’s get back to reality. The lifers are feeding into eachother. As long as skyw and CommutAir keep growing, there’s no reason to keep XJT alive. Nothing like a good old longevity reset.