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Old 05-21-2018 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
And, SGU has a track record of investing in XJT..... a new jet on a certificate involves investment.

I don’t doubt CRJ on the XJT certificate is possible. And, I am a sucker for believing in the unlikely: I believe SGU plans to sell XJT to United once American flying is gone. United won’t have a problem investing in XJT as a wholly owned.

I am just being skeptical given SGU’s track record of investing further in XJT on their own dime.
Yeah, SGU isn't even investing in pilot recruitment for the XJT side. It appears all the XJT pilot recruitment $ is coming from UAL right now.
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Old 05-21-2018 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
And, SGU has a track record of investing in XJT..... a new jet on a certificate involves investment.

I am a sucker for believing in the unlikely: I believe SGU plans to sell XJT to United once American flying is gone. United won’t have a problem investing in XJT as a wholly owned.

I am just being skeptical given SGU’s track record of investing further in XJT on their own dime.
It has nothing to do with investment. It takes forever for the FAA to sign off a new type on a certificate. So United would basically be buying pilots and no aircraft. It would be cheaper to hire them off the street. Skywest has nutered the once great jetlink... expressjet.
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Old 05-21-2018 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by giggity37
It has nothing to do with investment. It takes forever for the FAA to sign off a new type on a certificate. So United would basically be buying pilots and no aircraft. It would be cheaper to hire them off the street. Skywest has nutered the once great jetlink... expressjet.
UAL tried this with CummutAir and it didn’t work so well. I think in order for this to work you need a large experience base to begin with as Endeavor did on the DAL side. They were able to easily absorb experienced XJT pilots from the CRJ side as the DAL contract wound down, but they weren’t starting from scratch.
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Old 05-21-2018 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by giggity37
It has nothing to do with investment. It takes forever for the FAA to sign off a new type on a certificate. So United would basically be buying pilots and no aircraft. It would be cheaper to hire them off the street. Skywest has nutered the once great jetlink... expressjet.
Who owns the 145’s?
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Old 05-21-2018 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Who owns the 145’s?
I only looked at about 6. All were leased from Wells Fargo.
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Old 05-21-2018 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
I only looked at about 6. All were leased from Wells Fargo.
Wells Fargo is the lessor and UAL signed the lease.
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Old 05-21-2018 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by N1234
Wells Fargo is the lessor and UAL signed the lease.
That's what I pretty much figured.
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Old 05-21-2018 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
That's what I pretty much figured.
If UAL acquires XJT, UAL already “own” the 145’s (even though they are leasing them from Wells Fargo). XJT pilots would be an excellent fit. UAL gets the 121 certificate, the pilots and UAL already has the planes.

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Old 05-21-2018 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Where are the 700’s coming from?
Rumor is they would come from GoJets.
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Old 05-21-2018 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by da42pilot
Rumor is they would come from GoJets.
That’s where the scope would come from. I still think the actual planes are going to come from ASA
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