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Old 05-09-2018 | 01:07 PM
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Remember when they announced “growth” right after announcing parking the DL fleet. Only a delusional person would consider a net loss of 53 (61-8) airframes as “growing.”
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Old 05-10-2018 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
I’m constantly blown away at all the former ASA planes flying around the SKYW system. I saw 4 of them in one shot sitting in Denver yesterday. Sad.
Used to have contract language to prevent that..... BUT-mgmt threatened whichever side didn’t vote in a new contract deleting that...

Lot of good that did.

**** Skywest!
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Old 05-11-2018 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
FAs are being offered some sort of pittance for early retirement. It’s like 2 months pay or something like that.
Many company offer that, it's a way to cut cost without having to lay off. Delta offer that, plus offered people 20 to 25 thousand dollars if they wanted to leave and go do other things. I took that one went to school to get my A&P, best thing I ever did.
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Old 05-12-2018 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
If you're just starting out in this business I think you have nothing to lose by coming here except six months seniority somewhere else. XJT is like one of those stocks that's been beaten down. If you get in on the bottom and things turn around you look like a genius. If things do fold you've lost little.
Personally, I don't see things folding. The CRJ side lost the DAL flying last summer and the transition to Endeavor picking it up hasn't been as great as all the suits thought it would be. This isn't 2012 when Comair pilots had nowhere else to go. Pilots immediately started leaving for SkyWest and UAL's competition and it's gotten so bad that the CEO of Inc has had several meetings with the ERJ/CRJ MEC chairmen on how to stem the hemorrhaging pilot numbers. We were supposed to keep flying until the end of 2018, but that slipped to October 2018 due to a lack of pilots. Now there are rumors that we will shut down the DAL flying this summer. DAL asked us to hold off delivery of the final -900's as Endeavor couldn't staff them, but we told them the schedule is set and they can pay the leases on airplanes that sit, not us.
So that leaves us with UAL flying. UAL tried to transfer the ERJ's to CommuteAir, but they had issues taking as many as they said they could. I hear the transfer is picking up again, but both sides are pretty much taking ERJ's out of the desert as soon as they can man them. The idea of someone suddenly being able to find pilots to staff 100+ ERJ's in this environment is ludicrous. But then again, it is United. Who knows what they will try to do.
As for the rumors that UAL is/has purchased us... well, look around at this forum. The same rumor is floating around every UAL feeder in some shape or form.
One of the better responses on this forum Blackhawk... sounds like good info from a level headed pilot. Long time pilot considering Express Jet. Thanks for the info!
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Old 05-13-2018 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mogollon
One of the better responses on this forum Blackhawk... sounds like good info from a level headed pilot. Long time pilot considering Express Jet. Thanks for the info!
The big difference in the rumor about United purchasing Xjet is that the rumor was repeated in Bloomberg News. If journalistic standards were followed, which I have no reason to doubt, this rumor would have required being confirmed by sources within Xjet or United management. No other regional has had this type of rumor published by the press.

With both American and Delta bringing their regional flying in-house, it is logical that United would consider the same thoughts. With Xjet being a “bad fit” for SKW, I would think SKW would gladly consider selling to United if the price was right. And, with Xjet becoming a United only carrier, a former United (Continential) wholly owned regional, and providing the bulk of the United flying out of IAH, I think Xjet makes for a good fit.

The two things I disagree with his analysis is the loss of time in the left seat that other non-wholly owned regionals are offering, and the loss of a flow to a major that the wholly owned regionals are offering.

So, for a pilot wanting to work for United ultimately, Xjet is worth a chance. Anywhere else, I would go to SKW on the CRJ where Delta and Southwest are devouring their pilots once they hit 1,000 TPIC.
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Old 05-13-2018 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
The big difference in the rumor about United purchasing Xjet is that the rumor was repeated in Bloomberg News. If journalistic standards were followed, which I have no reason to doubt, this rumor would have required being confirmed by sources within Xjet or United management. No other regional has had this type of rumor published by the press.

With both American and Delta bringing their regional flying in-house, it is logical that United would consider the same thoughts. With Xjet being a “bad fit” for SKW, I would think SKW would gladly consider selling to United if the price was right. And, with Xjet becoming a United only carrier, a former United (Continential) wholly owned regional, and providing the bulk of the United flying out of IAH, I think Xjet makes for a good fit.
Rumor isn’t reality. Just ask any CRJ pilot what that reality is. Fewer than six months left in the DL world and less than a year in the AA system yet no word on where we’ll wind up and no ability to exercise our ‘seniority’. Good times indeed.
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Old 05-13-2018 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma
Rumor isn’t reality. Just ask any CRJ pilot what that reality is. Fewer than six months left in the DL world and less than a year in the AA system yet no word on where we’ll wind up and no ability to exercise our ‘seniority’. Good times indeed.
Well, you guys have your MEC to thank for that. They’re a bunch of stubborn lifers that refused to budge and sold the entire CRJ group out by not negotiating.

I feel like there’s good news coming, as I’ve heard that the AA announcement is a key player in “good news” around the corner. We’ll know by the end of May if the rumors are indeed true, but I hope we can get things worked out as a pilot group and start working together for a change. There’s lot of good folks that are L-ASA, and lots of good L-XJT people as well.

INC and their kool-aid drinking kooks are hopefully going to be a distant memory and we can get out of “bastard-child” status.

Yes, INC, XJT hates you and the slow death spiral you’ve put us in so your non-union slaves can continue to grow.
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Old 05-13-2018 | 10:28 AM
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Why would Skywest sell XJT to UA and essentially create a competitor for themselves? That makes no sense at all especially when they can transfer assets and liquidate the company over time. There is no talk here at United about purchasing XJT or any regional for that matter. Stop spreading this nonsense that UA has grand plans for XJT. No more excuses, the time to leave was yesterday.
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Old 05-13-2018 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
Why would Skywest sell XJT to UA and essentially create a competitor for themselves? That makes no sense at all especially when they can transfer assets and liquidate the company over time. There is no talk here at United about purchasing XJT or any regional for that matter. Stop spreading this nonsense that UA has grand plans for XJT. No more excuses, the time to leave was yesterday.
I have never given much credence to these rumors. If I had a dollar for every time I heard this rumor I’d be on my private island spanking my wife for being the naughty girl she is instead of perusing a pilot website.
But whatever has (or has not), happened there seems to be more to the rumor this time. We’ve already been told that there will probably be some base announcements by the end of the month in addition to the official announcement of a TYS virtual base.
If this is true then there will be some losers as well. UAL is scoped out so it will be a reshuffling if flying not new flying. If so, some pilots who chased the quick upgrade may be sorely disappointed.
Nothing to lose by hanging out here a little longer.
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Old 05-13-2018 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
Why would Skywest sell XJT to UA and essentially create a competitor for themselves? That makes no sense at all especially when they can transfer assets and liquidate the company over time. There is no talk here at United about purchasing XJT or any regional for that matter. Stop spreading this nonsense that UA has grand plans for XJT. No more excuses, the time to leave was yesterday.
Good to know. Thanks, Life Coach.
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