Is ExpressJet that bad?
05-13-2018 | 01:24 PM
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Why would Skywest sell XJT to UA and essentially create a competitor for themselves? That makes no sense at all especially when they can transfer assets and liquidate the company over time. There is no talk here at United about purchasing XJT or any regional for that matter. Stop spreading this nonsense that UA has grand plans for XJT. No more excuses, the time to leave was yesterday.
05-13-2018 | 03:19 PM
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Why would Skywest sell XJT to UA and essentially create a competitor for themselves? That makes no sense at all especially when they can transfer assets and liquidate the company over time. There is no talk here at United about purchasing XJT or any regional for that matter. Stop spreading this nonsense that UA has grand plans for XJT. No more excuses, the time to leave was yesterday.
05-13-2018 | 03:42 PM
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The given reason why they bought L-XJT was to diminish the competition. (Couldn’t have a bankrupt airline undercuting contracts)... Any businessman would know the sell would have some sort of kick back, maybe a 10 year extension on the OO contracts, or 40 more aircraft, Ect..... Im still not sure a sell will happen atleast not tell 2019 or later.. I feel what is happening to XJT is more of a “reset”. Back to the basic 1 aircraft type, centralized operation. Stabilize for a few years. Then evaluate growth... .
05-13-2018 | 04:13 PM
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How will an evaluation of growth work out for an airline that only has 50 seat jets? Kirby and crew want big rj’s and not 50 seaters. At this point their only option to add those is to add another mainline fleet which would allow a few more big rj’s or to have mainline pilots fly them. I don’t really see a plan for growth when the regionals are having trouble staffing what is on the books now.
05-13-2018 | 05:19 PM
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The given reason why they bought L-XJT was to diminish the competition. (Couldn’t have a bankrupt airline undercuting contracts)... Any businessman would know the sell would have some sort of kick back, maybe a 10 year extension on the OO contracts, or 40 more aircraft, Ect..... Im still not sure a sell will happen atleast not tell 2019 or later.. I feel what is happening to XJT is more of a “reset”. Back to the basic 1 aircraft type, centralized operation. Stabilize for a few years. Then evaluate growth... .
1. SkyWest wanted an in with CAL before the eventual “scope relief.” Didn’t matter because of the ual merger.
2. SkyWest was led on by CAL to buy Expressjet because of the beef between Reem and Kellner. SkyWest tried to buyout the BOD and they were rejected. The CFO at CAL wrote a memo to SkyW saying since they didn’t take we will give them an ultimatum if you’re ok with the contract. So then CAL says “we won’t do any CPA with XJT unless they return all the planes flying branded and they fly this (horrible) CPA.” So the board said fine Skywest you can have it. Then sky west complained years that we weren’t profitable and still aren’t somehow even though everyone else is giving out these bonuses and pay raises.
05-13-2018 | 05:42 PM
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Wrong on two points.
1. SkyWest wanted an in with CAL before the eventual “scope relief.” Didn’t matter because of the ual merger.
2. SkyWest was led on by CAL to buy Expressjet because of the beef between Reem and Kellner. SkyWest tried to buyout the BOD and they were rejected. The CFO at CAL wrote a memo to SkyW saying since they didn’t take we will give them an ultimatum if you’re ok with the contract. So then CAL says “we won’t do any CPA with XJT unless they return all the planes flying branded and they fly this (horrible) CPA.” So the board said fine Skywest you can have it. Then sky west complained years that we weren’t profitable and still aren’t somehow even though everyone else is giving out these bonuses and pay raises.
1. SkyWest wanted an in with CAL before the eventual “scope relief.” Didn’t matter because of the ual merger.
2. SkyWest was led on by CAL to buy Expressjet because of the beef between Reem and Kellner. SkyWest tried to buyout the BOD and they were rejected. The CFO at CAL wrote a memo to SkyW saying since they didn’t take we will give them an ultimatum if you’re ok with the contract. So then CAL says “we won’t do any CPA with XJT unless they return all the planes flying branded and they fly this (horrible) CPA.” So the board said fine Skywest you can have it. Then sky west complained years that we weren’t profitable and still aren’t somehow even though everyone else is giving out these bonuses and pay raises.
05-13-2018 | 06:14 PM
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SkyWest does not own the UAL flying. They service a contract for UAL. If SkyWest were to overplay their hand they could find UAL acquiring a different regional and taking away the Inc flying to boot leaving them with zip. Selling could put them in a position with servicing UAL flying for several years.
I think the majors have made it clear they want most of the regional flying in-house with just a few major players such as Inc picking up slack. I think there will be some major shakeups over the next few months. Some pilots chasing the upgrades may find they reached for the wrong brass ring.
I think the majors have made it clear they want most of the regional flying in-house with just a few major players such as Inc picking up slack. I think there will be some major shakeups over the next few months. Some pilots chasing the upgrades may find they reached for the wrong brass ring.
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