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Old 06-22-2018 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
I don’t think Skyw would sell xjt to Ual so Ual could transfer flying away from skyw.
Yup. Wishful thinking.
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Old 06-22-2018 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
Pipe dream. Scope choke is working for the moment, as is. We’d all like to be doing the 76 seat flying, but I highly doubt that’ll happen. If anything a NSNB order will allow the company some extra 76 seat flying. Heck, the company has already violated our scope language this year.
Yeah, there is an extra 175 sitting doing nothing in IAH because of scope. United is scoped out on 76 seaters and is over 2 on the 70 seaters based on the United MEC’s interpretation of the contract. I guess the dispute is headed to arbitration. I suspect there might be relief on 70 seaters before 76 seaters because the contract is explicit on 76 seaters.
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Old 06-22-2018 | 03:27 PM
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This "special meeting" would be the 1st ever meeting between Xjt MEC and Ual MEC... just sayin lol Its amazing how people get so excited about a special meeting, i mean common!
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Old 06-22-2018 | 03:30 PM
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Skywest can either get something for the XJT side or UAL will turn somebody else into the rope that strangles Skywest.

The bigger question is what UA ALPA and management will be able to negotiate, if anything. I believe that’s the hang up.
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Old 06-22-2018 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by da42pilot
Skywest can either get something for the XJT side or UAL will turn somebody else into the rope that strangles Skywest.

The bigger question is what UA ALPA and management will be able to negotiate, if anything. I believe that’s the hang up.
Yeah, there is all that to weight. UAL already owns 49% of CommutAir. Yeah, everyone says UAL tried to transfer flying to them already but it didn’t work, but as has been proven with Endeavor, Republic and others if you dump enough money into something it will work.
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Old 06-22-2018 | 05:13 PM
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Leave! Best advise I could offer..
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Old 06-22-2018 | 05:37 PM
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Yeah, it's become quite obvious that we are being fed a load of BS to keep us here. Personally, I feel like such a sap for believing it. Every month there's a reason that the purchase of XJT can't be announced... but it's a done deal. The ship is righting. Keep the faith. Good news is coming. Really. Pinky promise.
416 pilots left. Time to expand the search for a lifeboat.
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Old 06-22-2018 | 10:28 PM
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I'm curious to know at what number of airplanes will they be unable to recover from this downward spiral. We're already less than the 100 ERJ's they supposedly needed to keep this place alive.
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Old 06-23-2018 | 03:11 AM
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Now we elected a First Officer as MEC Chairmen??? Guess this place is really tanking. We lost the last one to CPP. I wonder if we will lose this one to Envoy?

OMG
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Old 06-23-2018 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
I'm curious to know at what number of airplanes will they be unable to recover from this downward spiral. We're already less than the 100 ERJ's they supposedly needed to keep this place alive.
Has nothing to do with a # of airplanes.

SKYW will just start posting losses to the erj side, and those losses will look just like what happened to the crj side. All that crap is just accounting gimmicks which are technically legal-just immoral as all hell.

The bottom line is SKYW does NOT want a union to deal with. Once these contracts wind down, what’s left of these subsidiaries will too.

I’ve known this would go down this way ever since SKYW pilots voted the union down-hard.

I hate the way it’s turning out, but anyone who’s honest with themselves knows how this will play out.
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