BestOfficeEver

Trying to decide between these two:

As I see it:

Pro ASQ:

1. Better Bases (for me)
2. Better Training Program
3. UA draws more from their CPP
4. EFB's!!
5. Can hold ORD with minimal reserve time or CLE with a bit more reserve time

Pro C5:

1. Better initial pay/bonuses
2. Less Doomesday Chatter (for whatever it's worth)
3. In a growth stage (albeit slowly)

No info on either about trip/duty rigs (if any). No info on ASQ's commuter policy.

At this time, AWI and RAH are out of the equation (and TSA/Go are just no) and Envoy wants prior 121 time. Any help in clarifying, correcting, informing, etc. would be greatly appreciated.

BlueRaiderAV8R

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Arliss

Well, I'm at Xjet and it's a fine place to work on a daily basis. Ran into a Commutair captain on my way in this morning who I knew briefly from GA. He's a captain after only 2 1/2 years there, but says the culture is crap and the operation is a complete cluster-f.

JediCheese

I think you've got some of these wrong.

C5 has the better CPP program for a new hire. There's no one with the time to go to United so once you meet the requirements, you're gone. The 90 day verification period is longer than the wait for a classdate when you complete the 1000 PIC. United takes 1% of our seniority list every time they hold a class!

Don't count on our initial pay being higher. The FO pay LOA is expiring December of 2019, and you need to be a trained FO for 1 year before you get that pay bump. Anyone starting class in October isn't ever going to see Dash CA pay.

Growing or shrinking is all based upon the company recruiting. If the company can get more pilots, we will keep growing. If the company can't continue to get pilots, we're going to have serious issues. There is a rumor that we've hired ~45 Australians due to the shut down of JetGo.

From the C5 side, if you want to get in, get your time, and get out, this is a great place to be. You will get paid and fly your ass off which is nice. Just don't expect to enjoy the experience or have QoL while doing it.

Approach1260

Smart money would be to pack up and move to one of Endeavors bases. They're top of the pile as far as regionals are concerned right now.

Not saying moving is a job requirement in this industry, but it sure does make life easier.

PontiusPilot

If you want ORD, XJT might work out well for you. The CPP for a new XJT hire (if successful) may not take too long either, as the current CPP pool would be drained while you're still building the required hours.

Initial pay should improve... we are expecting a TA very soon. We need to do more to attract and retain pilots, and I'm hearing it will reflect that.

There's also a little less doomsday chatter now as the partnership grows with United. The announcement of 20 ORD CRJs for United was a plus.

Arliss

Good point but until I see the money in a legally binding document, I'm going to fly around with one foot out the door.....sort of like flying the Cub, but not as fun

BestOfficeEver

Thank you for the replies and extra information. One more question:

1) When can you take the Hogan for the CPP at ASQ? I'm being told at C5 you can take it before indoc (if that's what you'd like).

Fleet Warp

at C5 you can take the United interview and get a job offer (or not) before you even begin training.

DirkDiggler

Don’t go to either is the appropriate advice.