Management upset at bleeding??
11-27-2018 | 02:59 PM
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You think 90% would go back to pax flying? I can understand the stress of going through our initial training, but it's an entirely different world once out on the line. Sure it has its own set of negatives, but doesn't have the negatives of regional pax flying, which I think would keep most from wanting to go back to a regional once they taste it.
11-27-2018 | 03:35 PM
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That's funny right there. Having been in the ACMI world for just under a year now, I can guarantee you that even with the disfunctional nature of this sector, very few of us have the desire to ever go back to hauling the trash for an ungrateful mainline "partner". I just spent the day flying around Asia, in my jeans and a T-shirt, with about 4.5 hours of bunk time, two hot meals, and no pax drama. You can keep your 6 leg days and 24 minute turns out of ORD and EWR. That's not even taking into account having to commute again. Even flow doesn't make that garbage appealing anymore (to me, at least).
11-27-2018 | 06:02 PM
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That's funny right there. Having been in the ACMI world for just under a year now, I can guarantee you that even with the disfunctional nature of this sector, very few of us have the desire to ever go back to hauling the trash for an ungrateful mainline "partner". I just spent the day flying around Asia, in my jeans and a T-shirt, with about 4.5 hours of bunk time, two hot meals, and no pax drama. You can keep your 6 leg days and 24 minute turns out of ORD and EWR. That's not even taking into account having to commute again. Even flow doesn't make that garbage appealing anymore (to me, at least).
Anyone who thinks a -175 type or UAL buying XJT will lure me back is on drugs. Ohhh. I know. I get UAL pass benefits for life. Yeah, that worked out swell with DAL.
K4 actually treated us with some respect and gave us a shot. XJT?? Yeah. Not so much. BTW. Who is this "Terry" dude?? Does he really work at XJT? Did he show up to the last ATL flight or was he AWOL again?
11-28-2018 | 06:38 PM
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You forgot a few things. Commute to ORD, 12 days off each month (so now about 9 days off), for guarantee. Garbage four days worth 12 hours. After 20 years. Yeah, I'm all over that.
Anyone who thinks a -175 type or UAL buying XJT will lure me back is on drugs. Ohhh. I know. I get UAL pass benefits for life. Yeah, that worked out swell with DAL.
K4 actually treated us with some respect and gave us a shot. XJT?? Yeah. Not so much. BTW. Who is this "Terry" dude?? Does he really work at XJT? Did he show up to the last ATL flight or was he AWOL again?
Anyone who thinks a -175 type or UAL buying XJT will lure me back is on drugs. Ohhh. I know. I get UAL pass benefits for life. Yeah, that worked out swell with DAL.
K4 actually treated us with some respect and gave us a shot. XJT?? Yeah. Not so much. BTW. Who is this "Terry" dude?? Does he really work at XJT? Did he show up to the last ATL flight or was he AWOL again?
11-29-2018 | 06:33 AM
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CommutAir not so much. United has as much of a stake in CommutAir as they will in ExpressJet should a United led buyer group purchase them.
11-30-2018 | 04:14 PM
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Instructor class for the -175 "delayed". FAs on the ERJ side being furloughed in addition to those already furloughed on the CRJ side. Apparently, new hire pilot classes canceled for the rest of 2018, although I'm not sure they had that many in those classes to begin with. Performance numbers have tanked.
I really am hoping things will turn in the next month for those of you left but it looks pretty grim from this side.
I really am hoping things will turn in the next month for those of you left but it looks pretty grim from this side.
11-30-2018 | 04:53 PM
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Instructor class for the -175 "delayed". FAs on the ERJ side being furloughed in addition to those already furloughed on the CRJ side. Apparently, new hire pilot classes canceled for the rest of 2018, although I'm not sure they had that many in those classes to begin with. Performance numbers have tanked.
I really am hoping things will turn in the next month for those of you left but it looks pretty grim from this side.
I really am hoping things will turn in the next month for those of you left but it looks pretty grim from this side.
Where are you getting this info? I have ATP CTP on the 17th. Or so they tell me. ERJ Jan 7
11-30-2018 | 05:17 PM
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Also, picking ExpressJet is not necessarily a bad thing for you. It's kind of like picking a penny stock. You have very little to lose. If things do turn around, however, you will be on the leading edge of the hiring wave.
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