Puck Hawg

Again, no ink has been signed and no announcements have been made, so Embraer isn't going to pay the bill for instructors to be trained until that happens.

I agree, though, that initially, the 175 will go to the senior ASA folk. IF we are owned by UA, Mesa has 175's up for renewal next year, and Management has stated we will be going after those as well.

It'll be an interesting next 60 days or so, regardless of which way the pendulum swings....

Melit

omg...lol...

afterburn81

I get you. Myt comment is directed towards an XJT only scenario. XJT nets around 3 new hires per month. This is straight from the training center. Right now they have a class with 1 guy. Pretty sad. The company is doing absolutely nothing to attract guys. I honestly wish this was by choice but after being here for 12 years, I firmly believe it’s mainly the residual culture of a management that feels they shouldn’t have to provide incentives and that it should just be cool enough that you get to fly a jet.

So my point is, without the ability to genuinely and organically attract FOs, there cannot be growth. Growth is required for both QOL and pay. When upgrades are around the 17 year mark, it’s really tough to gauge when the good times will be. I’d love nothing more than for this place to turn around. In order to do so, a completely new culture will need to prevail.

PontiusPilot

I think recruiting is essentially at a standstill until things start happening. This is apparently also the reason why a higher signing bonus hasn’t already been implemented. That money will attract a better applicant post-announcement than it would now.

Jan. 6 is the last flight for AA, and Jan. 31 is the contingency deadline. Things should become clearer soon.

calmwinds

Xjet is going to have a hard enough time handling bringing on 20-25 new Ejets next year - as a new plane on the certificate. I smirk when Xjet management or their union seem to try to “sell” to their pilot base that they can handle even more than that. Mesa will have ink on our CPA renewal long before Xjet even flies their first 175. The birds Mesa should worry about are the CRJ700’s in IAD.

DirkDiggler

There were a lot of people in denial when comair shut their doors too....

afterburn81

According to actual recruiters, they are out working hard every day. They too are also lost by why no the signing bonus hasn’t been upped. Not to mention, why hasn’t there been a decent retention bonus for those on property? If growth is expected, even 1 year down the road, plans would usual materialize.

On a side note, have you noticed on the performance page that we cancel 8-10 flights a day now due to no crew? Great job lol.

Fallout15

Nobody is showing up because of no flow no upgrade and no RTP. The money and contact are great.

DirkDiggler

Two years ago I was told by an executive level member of management who was under an NDA, and had just left at the time. The INC plan is to close the ASA side first then shut down the ERJ side 6 months after ASA closes. I even posted it on here back in 2016, but things weren't as clear back then to take it seriously. We had about double the pilots and a/c. So either my friend is an oracle, or it really is the master plan, because so far everything he said has come true. We'll see what happens in 6 months.

Blackhawk

Six months? Try three months. If 31 January hits and XJT is still owned by INC the last holdouts will start to bail. Especially if there is no -175 announcement.