Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Retired Airlines > ExpressJet
Management upset at bleeding?? >

Management upset at bleeding??


Notices
ExpressJet Regional Airline

Management upset at bleeding??

Old 11-16-2018 | 09:58 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Default Management upset at bleeding??

I've heard rumors that management is upset at all the pilots leaving, especially the deal worked out with Kalitta. You know what? It doesn't matter how we got here. Our partners at Kalitta and other places are noticing. And we DO have a seat at the table with them.

It's not 2012 and this is not Comair. Pilots are not going to stay while you kick them around. Heck, even the "good news" about the -175s can't be handled correctly. Months after the TA was approved, nothing from UAL.
Putting together lines for 20-30 year veterans of this company commuting to 12 days off. With single days off between trips. Worth about 60 hours. Barf. Gee. If pilots don't have any days off and are commuting to ORD I wonder why they aren't picking up open time? Hmmm... let's ponder that one. Come on. Must be a reason. What is it??
Reply
Old 11-16-2018 | 10:12 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,290
Likes: 112
Default

On many levels, too bad UAL didnt hire in 2017 like we have this year.

There’s no way they could have kept up with losing 15-18-20 CA’s a month just to the CPP. That would ALSO mean this year would have probably dipped into the FO’s in the CPP, further compounding the problem.
Reply
Old 11-16-2018 | 10:20 AM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by John Carr
On many levels, too bad UAL didnt hire in 2017 like we have this year.

There’s no way they could have kept up with losing 15-18-20 CA’s a month just to the CPP. That would ALSO mean this year would have probably dipped into the FO’s in the CPP, further compounding the problem.
There's a solution that's been whispered for years, but you and I know it will never happen.
Reply
Old 11-16-2018 | 10:25 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,290
Likes: 112
Default

Originally Posted by Blackhawk
There's a solution that's been whispered for years, but you and I know it will never happen.
It’s been SHOUTED.

But agreed, not anytime soon, unfortunatley.
Reply
Old 11-16-2018 | 10:27 AM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by John Carr
It’s been SHOUTED.

But agreed, not anytime soon, unfortunatley.
It will have to get to the point where it affects UAL labor's bottom line for something to change.
Reply
Old 11-16-2018 | 06:28 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Default

Time to throw more money at us in the form of a retention bonus that might actually retain people.

https://youtu.be/fiETw5a4qgw
Reply
Old 11-16-2018 | 07:37 PM
  #7  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma
Honestly, I’m pretty sure they [don’t care] how many leave at this point. It shows.

From 4,000+ trained pilots to what...<1k?
IDK. Performance numbers have tanked. XJT is making G7 look good. That's not the way to win bigger airplanes.
I hope and pray things turn around quickly for those still there.
Reply
Old 11-16-2018 | 08:36 PM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 707
Likes: 0
From: lav dumper
Default

A lot of the good people are getting hired elsewhere. And maybe some good people were unjustly denied a position. But I have noticed it appears all we have left are the rejects and people who probably rode the short bus to school. Soon enough XJT will be just one big group of invalids.
Reply
Old 11-16-2018 | 08:49 PM
  #9  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
A lot of the good people are getting hired elsewhere. And maybe some good people were unjustly denied a position. But I have noticed it appears all we have left are the rejects and people who probably rode the short bus to school. Soon enough XJT will be just one big group of invalids.
I've seen enough "...rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, ****-kickers and Methodists..." get hired at majors that I try not to disparage those left behind. We even had Captain FOQA get hired by SWA. That was a sad day. You could always pimp FO's who had flown with him on what would be in AQP that year as the events were usually based upon something idiotic he did in an airplane. Like the LGA ILS 22 circle 13.
Reply
Old 11-17-2018 | 11:58 AM
  #10  
Puck Hawg's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 447
Likes: 29
Default

Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
A lot of the good people are getting hired elsewhere. And maybe some good people were unjustly denied a position. But I have noticed it appears all we have left are the rejects and people who probably rode the short bus to school. Soon enough XJT will be just one big group of invalids.
Obvious flame bait.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TheFly
Safety
8
11-15-2017 01:34 PM
skytrekker
Aviation Law
2
10-09-2013 09:12 PM
mspano85
Career Questions
21
08-09-2013 04:16 AM
mohaupt
Regional
8
01-23-2008 02:01 PM
TwoStar
Flight Schools and Training
0
01-16-2008 02:12 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices