XJT ALPA CPP update.
07-06-2019, 02:58 PM
#11
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I shouldn't have eaten those tacos in Mexico few weeks ago. Next day I was so sick I had to call in sick. now I'm out of CPP, I guess
Last edited by andili61; 07-06-2019 at 03:12 PM.
07-06-2019, 07:41 PM
#12
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Position: A320
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Originally Posted by watch
That said, a lot of pilots have been going via the CPP. 500 is a lot. They just finished up sending around 400 up in chunks of 40 per month.
07-06-2019, 09:10 PM
#13
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Just a little tool to keep us regional pukes in line until they reject you in the final review for some nonsense anyway.
Dependability – A complete dependability history (excused and unexcused occurrences) will be reviewed by United’ BOR. Program participants must maintain dependable attendance, meaning no documented and unexcused occurrence of the following in a rolling twelve (12) month period while employed by ExpressJet:
1. Sick call over company recognized holiday
2. Failure to operate assigned flight or event without notice
3. Notification of sick leave less than 4 hours prior to departure
4. Notification of sick leave after beginning of reserve duty
5. Sick call impacting an assigned training event
6. Failure of the pilot to be contactable when required
7. Sick call prior to or following a scheduled vacation
8. Greater than four (4) absences, unless those absences are covered by the Family and Medical Leave Act
I know I have personally hit 7 out of the 8 myself HAHAH.
Dependability – A complete dependability history (excused and unexcused occurrences) will be reviewed by United’ BOR. Program participants must maintain dependable attendance, meaning no documented and unexcused occurrence of the following in a rolling twelve (12) month period while employed by ExpressJet:
1. Sick call over company recognized holiday
2. Failure to operate assigned flight or event without notice
3. Notification of sick leave less than 4 hours prior to departure
4. Notification of sick leave after beginning of reserve duty
5. Sick call impacting an assigned training event
6. Failure of the pilot to be contactable when required
7. Sick call prior to or following a scheduled vacation
8. Greater than four (4) absences, unless those absences are covered by the Family and Medical Leave Act
I know I have personally hit 7 out of the 8 myself HAHAH.
Last edited by tomgoodman; 07-07-2019 at 04:04 PM. Reason: Language
07-06-2019, 11:18 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
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Ok. I’m going to be the dissenter here.
5% of the pilot group ruined it for the rest. Pilots using up their sick leave before turning in resignations. Using sick time to get out of flying over a holiday. You know who you are.
If you’re sick you’re sick. But be prepared to get a doctor’s note. Heck, I’ve had it. Diagnosed with pink eye just before a trip. But my sick time never showed up even though I used it about once a year. When I was sick.
5% of the pilot group ruined it for the rest. Pilots using up their sick leave before turning in resignations. Using sick time to get out of flying over a holiday. You know who you are.
If you’re sick you’re sick. But be prepared to get a doctor’s note. Heck, I’ve had it. Diagnosed with pink eye just before a trip. But my sick time never showed up even though I used it about once a year. When I was sick.
07-07-2019, 05:19 AM
#15
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Position: A320
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
Ok. I’m going to be the dissenter here.
5% of the pilot group ruined it for the rest. Pilots using up their sick leave before turning in resignations. Using sick time to get out of flying over a holiday. You know who you are.
If you’re sick you’re sick. But be prepared to get a doctor’s note. Heck, I’ve had it. Diagnosed with pink eye just before a trip. But my sick time never showed up even though I used it about once a year. When I was sick.
5% of the pilot group ruined it for the rest. Pilots using up their sick leave before turning in resignations. Using sick time to get out of flying over a holiday. You know who you are.
If you’re sick you’re sick. But be prepared to get a doctor’s note. Heck, I’ve had it. Diagnosed with pink eye just before a trip. But my sick time never showed up even though I used it about once a year. When I was sick.
A doctors note only excuses you from disciplinary action from the company. Am I understanding this incorrectly?
07-07-2019, 09:05 AM
#16
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 194
Originally Posted by watch
Is United less likely to hire you off the street if you're in the CPP?
I would like to see the hiring rates of CPP hires versus OTS hires of non-participating pilots. This of course will never be available, as everyone signs up for the CPP. Any internal policy on this? Rumors say United hiring folks have been told NOT to hire anyone in the CPP off the street.
I would like to see the hiring rates of CPP hires versus OTS hires of non-participating pilots. This of course will never be available, as everyone signs up for the CPP. Any internal policy on this? Rumors say United hiring folks have been told NOT to hire anyone in the CPP off the street.
07-07-2019, 11:51 AM
#17
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
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So, UA and the company string along the pilot group for years about a “new and improved” CPP, with Greg Woolley telling people to their face in crew rooms that a flow was “imminent”, and UA rolls out this POS?
What a slap in the face to the hard working folks that stuck it out and tried to make XJT a better place. What a dumpster fire that joint has turned into.
What a slap in the face to the hard working folks that stuck it out and tried to make XJT a better place. What a dumpster fire that joint has turned into.
07-07-2019, 05:23 PM
#19
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Position: lav dumper
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Originally Posted by MacrossJet
If hired at XJT, but you don't apply/get accepted for the CPP. But apply to United as an OTS. Does that hurt you? Is that a black mark for simply being employed with XJT and applying to United?
07-07-2019, 06:52 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: It's a plane and it's a seat
Posts: 951
Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
There is one XJT guy who was accepted into the CPP, passed everything and was in the pool. Then wanted to try his luck OTS and bombed the OTS interview and thought, ok no biggie I’m in the CPP still. NOPE. So like a YEAR later he gets a notice stating sorry you failed OTS so you’re outta the CPP. Complete BS. So I can imagine it works both ways.
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