XJT ALPA CPP update.
07-08-2019 | 09:29 AM
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So, UA and the company string along the pilot group for years about a “new and improved” CPP, with Greg Woolley telling people to their face in crew rooms that a flow was “imminent”, and UA rolls out this POS?
What a slap in the face to the hard working folks that stuck it out and tried to make XJT a better place. What a dumpster fire that joint has turned into.
What a slap in the face to the hard working folks that stuck it out and tried to make XJT a better place. What a dumpster fire that joint has turned into.
07-08-2019 | 09:38 AM
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Wooley telling people that a flow is imminent? haha shocking he would say something like that to people... if I was in a casino right now and I had to bet if Xjt would get a flow or not, I would put every penny I had on Xjt not getting a flow. Wooley used to be one of us, it's amazing what a management position will do to you LOL
07-09-2019 | 07:20 PM
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I've heard the "flow" contract is already signed and sitting in a drawer somewhere. It's a matter of time before it's announced but XJT has to have its personnel in place to make it work. They first need to fully staff XJT before they can start flowing pilots to United. What interest would United have in buying ownership in XJT is they weren't going to utilize the XJT pilot pipeline?
07-09-2019 | 09:20 PM
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I've heard the "flow" contract is already signed and sitting in a drawer somewhere. It's a matter of time before it's announced but XJT has to have its personnel in place to make it work. They first need to fully staff XJT before they can start flowing pilots to United. What interest would United have in buying ownership in XJT is they weren't going to utilize the XJT pilot pipeline?
As well as a host of other tall tales?
07-09-2019 | 09:35 PM
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That is an interesting one to explain. So united may wish to remove you from a program for attendance for an attendance event that is under protected status at your current employer? I hope someone puts out some clarification for that. I have a lawyer friend who is dying to take a whiff of that.
07-10-2019 | 06:49 AM
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I've heard the "flow" contract is already signed and sitting in a drawer somewhere. It's a matter of time before it's announced but XJT has to have its personnel in place to make it work. They first need to fully staff XJT before they can start flowing pilots to United. What interest would United have in buying ownership in XJT is they weren't going to utilize the XJT pilot pipeline?
07-10-2019 | 07:18 AM
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There is no need for a flow... The whipsaw will always continue in the regional industry. In about a month or so Ual will announce another 40 175's going to XJT, Mesa contract will expire shifting planes over to Xjt and the bottom half of Mesa seniority list to leave Mesa for XJT, we are our own worst enemy. The whipsaw will always remain! Sad, but true.
07-10-2019 | 09:23 AM
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There is no need for a flow... The whipsaw will always continue in the regional industry. In about a month or so Ual will announce another 40 175's going to XJT, Mesa contract will expire shifting planes over to Xjt and the bottom half of Mesa seniority list to leave Mesa for XJT, we are our own worst enemy. The whipsaw will always remain! Sad, but true.
Last edited by DBono; 07-10-2019 at 09:25 AM. Reason: clarifying
07-10-2019 | 09:59 AM
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So United only wants to offer a flow when we're fat on pilots. If you see the company directory there are only 650 active pilots between captains and FO's. 179 captains and FO's on "L" status. Finally, people hired this year, or with seniority starting January 2019 including those already flying plus new hires on training are 224. We should be 325 pilots hired in 2019 by now. So if XJT wants to fly 125 ERJ's 145, and 25 175's we need solid 1500 pilots. Were are barely able to staff 70 airplanes as it is. I always thought that the flow plan, if it's true, would be to attract pilots in a cheaply manner, otherwise why would United have a flow in place?
XJT has the pilots for the 175s.
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