So when you were a new hire the Union launched a campaign intended to stop incoming new hires - and therefore your upward movement? And you were just fine with that?

Um. Yes Mr. Management. That is correct.

Now, if you are actually a pilot (I sure hope not), this isn’t all about you. The union is doing what the union is supposed to do. The dues we all pay are there to protect our jobs. Do you really think that the union has a surplus of dues and needs to spend money on meaningless campaigns? Do you know how hard it is to get union leadership to work hard and communicate with the group? Possibly, just possibly there is a problem and the pilot group is tired of it.

So, we are very sorry about this pesky union campaign this getting in the way of your career progression. Maybe, had you listened before you came to XJT, you’d be at a regional airline that didn’t have mismanagement issues causing major career set backs for the majority of the group, just so a newhire can believe for a short time, that their career is on track.

Thanks for putting me in my place. So my role here then is to happily pay my dues and keep my mouth shut because the Union knows best. Got it.

I’m no moderator but all you do is start arguments and get no where. Your discussions do nothing good for the group. So keep flying that desk. Maybe change your name to “dosomedeskstuff”. Seems more appropriate. Throwing pilots under the bus for your own benefit, that’s management stuff.

Does anyone have any idea how to answer this question? Let me re-phrase.

In the last 19-04 bid a pilot hired in 2007 was awarded CA in IAH. That has since been reported here as the current upgrade time to that base. However, there are 94 CAs on the seniority list at IAH who are JR to this 2007 hire, the most Jr of which is a 4/14 hire.

My question is very simple, how did these 94 pilots attain their CA status?

I am not trying to start an argument. I just want a real answer without all the filibuster burying my question time and time again.

It’s called previous bids. The junior award on 19-04 was a bypass on previous bids.

So is it really accurate to say the upgrade time to IAH is 12 years if 1/3 of the CAs in that base have been hired after that date?

I don’t know how many bids have been awarded since I left....but I left 7 months ago, and I was like FOURTH from the bottom in IAH. I worked there for 12 years and one day. I was a CA for 4.5 years, and every single day of that was on reserve.

Since that time, a shizz-load of super senior CRJ guys infested the place, which couldn’t have helped. I no longer have access to any lists or anything, but you and your opponents are arguing over semantics. The upgrade time at XJT has dropped DRASTICALLY, just not in the most “desirable” bases. If you want it bad enough, like I did, you’ll take the first available and commute for the money and PIC time. If you don’t, then you bypass a long time and upgrade on your own terms.....like the 19-04 guy probably did.

Yes. It is. If the last bid had people who WANTED Houston and couldn’t hold it, except for the 12-year guy. That’s how it works.

I see where you are coming from. But if I were wanting the base as a CA I think the most Jr CA is more relevant than the most recent award.