Originally Posted by BusBoy88

I'll try to help you with your confusion. I'm not talking about people who didn't pass the interview or didn't pass the hogan. I'm not even talking about people who lied on their apps or committed information from their apps. There was basically a 3 step process for the CPP. The hogan, the interview, and then a final HR review that would take place approximately 2-3 months before your potential class date with United. There were clearly defined things in the CPP agreement you had to keep off your employment record to pass the final review: training failures, unexcused sick calls during specific times (holidays, vacations, training, etc), UTCs, and a few other items. There were 10-20 individuals who passed the hogan, interview, and had none of the red flags specified in the agreement that should have prevented them from passing the final review who were then turned down with no explanation. Some of those people had been waiting around in the pool for over a year. If you'd like an analogy, imagine taking a check ride that you know all of the standards and requirements for before beginning the ride. You complete every maneuver within standards and then go into the debriefing room and are informed you didn't pass the check ride. No explanation as to why. That's basically what happened to 10-20 of the applicants. It's not like it's a rumor. It's been confirmed by ALPO and possibly maybe even the XJT CPP "liaison".

Originally Posted by BusBoy88

When are you going over thru the CPP? Have you taken the Hogan yet? Interviewed? how about the final review?

Originally Posted by BusBoy88

I'll try to help you with your confusion. I'm not talking about people who didn't pass the interview or didn't pass the hogan. I'm not even talking about people who lied on their apps or committed information from their apps. There was basically a 3 step process for the CPP. The hogan, the interview, and then a final HR review that would take place approximately 2-3 months before your potential class date with United. There were clearly defined things in the CPP agreement you had to keep off your employment record to pass the final review: training failures, unexcused sick calls during specific times (holidays, vacations, training, etc), UTCs, and a few other items. There were 10-20 individuals who passed the hogan, interview, and had none of the red flags specified in the agreement that should have prevented them from passing the final review who were then turned down with no explanation. Some of those people had been waiting around in the pool for over a year. If you'd like an analogy, imagine taking a check ride that you know all of the standards and requirements for before beginning the ride. You complete every maneuver within standards and then go into the debriefing room and are informed you didn't pass the check ride. No explanation as to why. That's basically what happened to 10-20 of the applicants. It's not like it's a rumor. It's been confirmed by ALPO and possibly maybe even the XJT CPP "liaison".

Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf

5 PERCENT

Figure it out for yourself.

Originally Posted by BusBoy88

I don't have anything to figure out. I'm just pointing out that the program isn't as it was advertised. United has constantly been moving the goal posts since its inception. Have they been sending out a lot of Hogans lately? How about to the round 2 people? My guess is probably not because they don't want those people to fail a second time and then jump off the XJT ship. It's a staffing gimmick. I can see why you love the program though! Nothing is more important to you than the staffing at XJT!

Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf

Take my bags to the room BusBoy and mind ya business.

Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf

And nothing is more important to you than taking my bags on up.

Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf

I would think common sense should tell us when 5% of the pool doesn’t get through it’s the credibility of the individuals and not the program that should come into question.

Originally Posted by BusBoy88

Lol. I deadhead on United all the time. I'm already a 1K. If you keep undermining the the XJT MEC maybe you'll get your wish eventually and give up some more work rules. You might end up bringing me my gate checked bag after you finish your walk around if you're lucky. I don't mind waiting to be the last one!