Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2919386)

Dude, that's 1040 pilots a year. That amount just simply won't come here. We would be lucky to have HALF that hit the line this year with a last minute rally...which would be unheard of during a holiday.

I'd guess around 400 this year.. tops.

Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2919411)

There is definitely seasonality to the attrition cycle. We've been floundering around the high 1300's for a while now. If they truly want this place to succeed they have to hear our chants loud and clear. F.U.P.M!

Just for comparison sake, Endeavors year 3 CA rate is advertised to be $96.49. (I'm assuming 76 seats). Our 3 year 76 rate is $76.82. There's more than pay scales... but that's a big difference. Plus all open time is paid at 150% over there. No active line pilot here should be telling anyone to come to this place until a good deal is signed. The union's strategy has been working well and it has brought management to the negotiating table quickly. There are deep pockets behind this place now, there's no reason to accept anything subpar. No excuses anymore, it's time to FUPM.

Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2921082)

What is FUPM???

Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2921529)

#SAD!!!



:rolleyes:




:eek:

Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2921082)

What is FUPM???

Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2921529)

PM stands for Pay Me.

You’re a bright student.....figure out what FU stands for.

Originally Posted by YANXJTPilot (Post 2920862)

If you lose 10 and gain 20 you net 10 per week or 40 per month. Which would be 480 per year. Not sure where you are getting 1040... 80 x12 is 960 as well

Originally Posted by WhatsV1 (Post 2920934)

52 weeks times 20.

Re: the consistent 20/week; 20 is a good week comments.

To hit the 600 figure, 12ish a week. But again, it's been something like 6-7 a week on average.

Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2928995)

Part of the NC update from today:

Letter 2 Negotiations Update
On November 12-14, your negotiating team met with the company in Atlanta. During the meeting, we continued Letter 2 negotiations and exchanged proposals with the company. On the last day of our 3-day session, the company passed an incomplete counter-proposal to our team. We made it clear to the company that we could not respond to a proposal containing blanks and "items the company needed to research." We asked the company to complete their proposal and to resubmit it prior to the special MEC meeting held this past week in Houston. The company agreed and, albeit a day late, did resubmit their counter. Unfortunately, the contents of the company's counter are not only very disappointing, but also do nothing to get us closer to a deal that our pilot group deserves.

Your NC will continue to work hard to reach an agreement in principal with the company by December 12 (the one-year anniversary of the signing of Contract 2018). While we hope the company will similarly work to that end, based on their last pass, we are concerned that they are not committed to doing so.

The Deal is Not Done. We will continue to update you as Letter 2 negotiations progress. If you have questions or comments, please email....