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Old 09-07-2019, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf View Post
Well here is how I see it. 5-10% left because that’s how many leave from all regionals. They may figure out the training is too demanding. They may find that life on reserve sucks worse than they thought.
Not sure where your math came from, but its wrong. It is higher than 15-20%. Some figures are closer to 50%. Any pilot at XJT can look at the numbers going through the seniority list and know for a fact that it is higher than the stuff you spew.
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DSPS must be a member of management, or maybe one of the freshly minted pilot recruiters (which are flight attendants by the way...GMAFB), because no one on the line is that out of touch with reality.
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Originally Posted by Puck Hawg View Post
DSPS must be a member of management, or maybe one of the freshly minted pilot recruiters (which are flight attendants by the way...GMAFB), because no one on the line is that out of touch with reality.
You know things must be pretty bad when we have flight attendant's as pilot recruiters.
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:10 AM
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You know things must be pretty bad when we have flight attendant's as pilot recruiters.
You do realize that we have utilized FA/FO’s for years/decades. When I was hired in 07 hiring was led by a FA.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:44 AM
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You do realize that we have utilized FA/FO’s for years/decades. When I was hired in 07 hiring was led by a FA.
Too bad pilots can’t hire fa’s.
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Too bad pilots can’t hire fa’s.
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Yeah.... must resist urge to comment
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:43 PM
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I just want to include into this, there was quite a few pilots who couldn't make it and were forced to resign. After 100 hours of OE, there is a point where they are not a fit for flying airliners. Those people are in those numbers. They don't print an accurate idea of why they've left.
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Old 09-09-2019, 06:00 AM
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desperation to hire = you'll take applicants that nobody else will.

This translates to a huge time suck. They use up 2-3 times as much sim time, instructor time, LCA time, etc. Meanwhile, the training curriculum stretches to 4,5,6 months for everyone. Then, most of these pilots get fired (forced to resign, same thing) and take their ATP, type, and Sheraton points when they leave. Thanks for the free breakfasts!

Higher quality applicants = finish training on time, less work load on sim instructors and LCAs, better overall culture.
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desperation to hire = you'll take applicants that nobody else will.

This translates to a huge time suck. They use up 2-3 times as much sim time, instructor time, LCA time, etc. Meanwhile, the training curriculum stretches to 4,5,6 months for everyone. Then, most of these pilots get fired (forced to resign, same thing) and take their ATP, type, and Sheraton points when they leave. Thanks for the free breakfasts!

Higher quality applicants = finish training on time, less work load on sim instructors and LCAs, better overall culture.
I’ve heard they’re letting people go who can’t cut it in training. What you mentioned may have been accurate in the recent past though. Guess they are getting the numbers they need in the door 🤷*♂️
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Old 09-09-2019, 07:53 AM
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Those folks still count toward the "hiring 600+ pilots in 2019"
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