Aviate Pass Rate Under 35%
#201
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Whether it was on my time off, or in the hotel on an overnight, etc.
Guys, I'm not angry about my personal situation. Far from it. I am angry that management benefits from this program while we wait for them to negotiate in good faith to finish our contract. So, if you want to say I'm angry then yeah, I'm angry that we still dont have a finished contract!
#203
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And it appears you don't like being told something contrary to your own perceptions and false memories, but "lighten up dude"....
Stop trying to justify/rationalize /excuse why something didn't work out for you/claiming the system was against you, "that kind or prep wasn't available then blah blah blah....."
Stop trying to justify/rationalize /excuse why something didn't work out for you/claiming the system was against you, "that kind or prep wasn't available then blah blah blah....."
#205
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And it appears you don't like being told something contrary to your own perceptions and false memories, but "lighten up dude"....
Stop trying to justify/rationalize /excuse why something didn't work out for you/claiming the system was against you, "that kind or prep wasn't available then blah blah blah....."
Stop trying to justify/rationalize /excuse why something didn't work out for you/claiming the system was against you, "that kind or prep wasn't available then blah blah blah....."
Go back and read what I said. Stop being so sensitive. My criticism of Aviate wasn't directed at you.
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And that sucks, sorry to hear that. I know more than a few that are/were in your situation. And I've said it before, as has another guy that's moved on. When the opportunity comes to move on, either an OTS at UAL or another carrier, you'll have a much better chance at getting it. Almost all the ones I know that got a TBNT on the CPP didn't have an issue elsewhere.I hope the contact gets improved soon and your situation improves.
#207
My personal favorites are the guys circa 2007 who always used to say “I can’t afford the pay cut”. The guys who moved on at that time are making well north of $300k year after year after year....
As for the prep, it’s worth it. Get the FULL version. Not the “light” one. Even if you aren’t successful with AVIATE, you can use that experience to serve you well in other interviews. I used Emerald Coast, successful CPP 1st round. I am FAR from the perfect applicant, but I learned how to own my past and discuss it in a positive and NON-defensive manner. EC did that for me. For what it’s worth, I bombed a SouthWest interview shortly after. Keep trying and trying, because somebody will hire you. Staying at a FFD is a risk. Ask ANY of the ASA dudes who hung their hat on Atlanta. The mainline partner can be fickle and do unpredictable things. It’s better to work for the carrier selling the tickets.
As for the prep, it’s worth it. Get the FULL version. Not the “light” one. Even if you aren’t successful with AVIATE, you can use that experience to serve you well in other interviews. I used Emerald Coast, successful CPP 1st round. I am FAR from the perfect applicant, but I learned how to own my past and discuss it in a positive and NON-defensive manner. EC did that for me. For what it’s worth, I bombed a SouthWest interview shortly after. Keep trying and trying, because somebody will hire you. Staying at a FFD is a risk. Ask ANY of the ASA dudes who hung their hat on Atlanta. The mainline partner can be fickle and do unpredictable things. It’s better to work for the carrier selling the tickets.
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Try ten times as hard. Outworking your competition will always be the ultimate recipe for success.
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I’d suggest that people pay for interview prep even without a scheduled interview. I wouldn’t want to find out that I don’t interview well with one already scheduled. If you find out that you are rough around the edges, then use it as training. Go multiple times, use different prep services, and learn to interview well if needed. It would also help to be ready should something come up quickly. That is in addition to reading every interview book that you can find and practicing over and over with friends and family. There is too much on the line to expect a thick logbook to carry any weight. Lots of people have thick logbooks. Being experienced with the interview process and able to comfortably sell yourself to those sitting across the table could really pay off. There is still no guarantee, but I’d rather get shot down knowing that I gave it my absolute best, than wish that I had done more to prepare.
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